DCC, NZTA: Cycle lanes controversy

Starting Friday…
Four weeks of consultation to encourage submissions on two preferred options – both involving a separated cycle lane on one-way sections of SH1. So, you wanna ride your bike on the state highway, up-close to fast moving vehicular traffic that can’t see you, through barely controlled intersections? Then this one’s for you, Cull’s ‘moving backwards’ scheme (modern technology never stepped up for citizen travel and efficient freighting).

bicycle_cartoon [spinningmixes.wordpress.com] 2

### ODT Online Tue, 5 Nov 2013
Public submissions invited over cycling lane proposals
By Debbie Porteous
A proposal to install separated lanes for cyclists on parts of the State Highway 1 network through Dunedin will be open for public opinion this week.
Read more

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26.2.13 DCC binge spending alert: Proposed South Dunedin cycle network
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Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Image: spinningmixes.wordpress.com – bicycle cartoon (text added by Whatifdunedin)

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14 responses to “DCC, NZTA: Cycle lanes controversy

  1. John P.Evans, concerned citizen

    Breathtaking stupidity founded by transient University professors, cycle salesmen and doctors practicing ambulance chasing.

    The next cab off the rank will be lawyers ambulance chasing the DCC to sue them for stupidity.

    I personally think they need to introduce more traffic lights down the peninsula, one at Dave Cull’s entrance to allow the bike on the cycle lane, and many more at each intersection. They need to be on all night as well so that the persons who live at Portobello can take as long to get home as those who commute to Oamaru.

    • “I personally think they need to introduce more traffic lights down the peninsula…”

      John, it remains a great shame you didn’t get a seat on council with these irritational ideas. Poor Daaave.

      • Comment at ODT Online:

        Cycle lanes – check the successful areas first
        Submitted by mansonc on Tue, 05/11/2013 – 3:57pm.
        Having been a cyclist in NZ on and off since 1994 I can say that nearly all the moves to assist cyclists have not been that great. Well intended of course, but not part of a well researched, thought out, consulted plan.
        Read more

        • ### ODT Online Wed, 6 Nov 2013
          Wheels in motion for trail
          By Debbie Porteous
          It is hoped ground will be broken early next year on the first stage of a project aiming to provide a cycle trail link between Mosgiel and Dunedin.
          Read more

        • Hype O'Thermia

          SUCH a sensible letter (Cycle lanes – check the successful areas first, by mansonc). NZ “leaders” as a whole go in for schemes that work well in totally different situations but not here / leading by “setting a good example to” the world, with planet-saving, or free-trade, or whatever and surprise surprise, the rest of the world is enormously impressed at leaders’ talk-fests but it’s back to realpolitik when they go back home.

          Countries don’t go willingly from convenient to inconvenient, from freedom to restrictions – for one thing the voters/populace in general may think it’s admirable, like going to the gym regularly, but in practice – nah, not really.

        • Too true, Hype. This bandwagon (cycle lane on the one-way) is to be followed by link up to the greater cycle lane network estimated to be worth $47 million. But what will the real cost be? Remember all the hidden costs of the stadium and other major capital projects run by this spendthrift lying damned council ?!?

  2. Hype O'Thermia

    But, Elizabeth, before we condemn this as another brainfart shouldn’t we ponder on the priceless value of publicity associated with Dave’n’Jinty winning the Nobel Prize for Planet-saving?
    What’s that, there isn’t one? Well there jolly well should be.

    • Oh yeah, credit where credit is due.

      • ### dunedintv.co.nz November 6, 2013 – 8:23pm
        Work commences on one-way system
        Jack-hammers and diggers are tearing up part of Dunedin’s one-way system as the New Zealand Transport Agency spruces up State Highway One.
        Video

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        ### ODT Online Thu, 7 Nov 2013
        Renewing surface of highway
        Sections of State Highway 1 through Dunedin are being resurfaced by the New Zealand Transport Agency. The work was costing $360,000 and would replace road surface which had ”reached the end of its economic life”, the NZTA said.
        Read more

  3. drivesacar

    I’m sure you are both very careful when opening your car door in the path of somebody on a bike, however we’re all glad that the risk of seeing someone smeared on the road should you ever make that simple error is being reduced by the kind folk at the NZTA and DCC. Bravo.

    • If you’re not on a footpath dedicated for cycling and are sharing the road with motor vehicles and hitting barely controlled intersections with trucks… then expect to see more smeared red care of the kind folk at DCC and NZTA.

  4. If anyone wants to know how these things get presented as being overwhelmingly supported and therefore approved by council, then google the DCC and search the ‘July Cycling Survey’ pdf. It will demonstrate just how these things grow legs. It was conducted by the ‘Peoples’ Panel’, a group of invited citizens. (Declared conflict, I am one of those members). As at July there were 1525 members and the response was just 504. I strongly suggest you read it and see how around 450 or so cycle enthusiasts can have such an impact on such an expensive project.

    {DCC Links. -Eds}

    Dunedin Cycle Survey [webpage]
    http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/whats-on/peoples-panel/panel-reports/cycle-survey-report

    Download: Dunedin Cycle Survey results (July 2013) (PDF, 131.9 KB)

    • I’m also one of the People’s Panel. I can’t recognise any of my responses in the summaries of subjects I’ve been surveyed on. The people who do the write-ups never acknowledge alternative views, which at least would demonstrate fairness and balance. All the PP is, is a slant vehicle for pushing stuff through council quickly, on the pretence of ‘public consultation’. Where is the natural justice in any of it. No weight can seriously be ascribed to the surveys – this is not an independent sample.

  5. With a 30% panel response giving a 90% thumbs up for the project, that will be taken as the green light for the expenditure. Watch when it comes to the council table and see if I am right. You have to hand it to the ‘Spokes’ people, they have got their members right into Dave and Jinty’s ears on this one.

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