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Propaganda from trust for Taieri pool project #Mosgiel

Updated post Sat, 7 Mar 2015 at 1:54 p.m.

██ RE: Market research and commercial feasibility
Dr Rob Hamlin, in a comment published early this morning at ODT Online and at What if? Dunedin, has offered his services to DCC, to conduct a referendum for the “entire Mosgiel community” to help determine the commercial feasibility (affordability) of the proposed Taieri Aquatic Centre.

Men who swim [kpbs.org] 1Men who swim [kpbs.org] —professional rugby boys growing into role?!

MODEL ADOPTED BY TAIERI COMMUNITY FACILITIES TRUST (TCFT):
STADIUM 2 (CSCT)*

From DCC information available, the proposed pool complex will cost a lot more than the $15M that trust chairman Michael Stedman cites. Council staff have produced comparative figures showing the pool trust has VASTLY underestimated costs including operationals.

For every one million dollars expended there is a consequential 1% rise in rates. This in a city plagued by rate increases running ahead of inflation (presently at 1%).

The Mayor of Dunedin has no particular mandate to speak on Council’s (unknown) position in regards to the pool proposal at this time, given there are insufficient facts to base decisions on. The Mayor has stated on local television that a new swimming pool complex at Mosgiel is likely to be developed within the next five years.

The Mosgiel-Taieri and Dunedin Communities have NOT been canvassed with the full financial impacts known. Rebel-rousing with interest groups and an online survey that most people don’t know about is NOT full community consultation.

Proposed Location: Memorial Park, Mosgiel. Is this the best location for the city’s resident southern population (demographics) requiring pool services? Don’t think so.

There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the Community can foot $7.5M towards the unknown capital cost of the pool build.

*Carisbrook Stadium Charitable Trust, still active – headed by Malcolm Farry

“The issue of funding is significant . . . although the community is willing to put in $7.5 million, or 50%, it certainly doesn’t mean it is close to being a done deal.” –Stedman, TCFT

### ODT Online Fri, 6 Mar 2015
Residents urged to continue push for Mosgiel pool
By Shawn McAvinue
Taieri residents need to continue making their voices heard if they want a $15 million pool facility in Mosgiel to proceed, Taieri Communities Facilities Trust chairman Michael Stedman says. […] Mr Stedman received more than 100 letters of support from sports groups and organisations and was “blown away” by about 2500 people completing an online survey on the pool.”
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Related Posts and Comments:
● 2.3.15 DCC: Mosgiel Pool private workshop Tuesday (tomorrow) [renders]
● 20.2.15 Taieri Aquatic Centre: Second try for SECRET meeting —hosted by Mayor
● 13.2.15 ‘Taieri Aquatic Centre’, email from M. Stedman via B. Feather
● 10.2.15 Dunedin City Councillors invited to Secret Meeting #Mosgiel
11.10.14 New Mosgiel Pool trust declared —(ready to r**t)
23.7.14 Mosgiel Pool: Taieri Times, ODT…. mmm #mates
16.7.14 Stadium: Exploiting CST model for new Mosgiel Pool #GOBs
● 4.2.14 DCC: Mosgiel Pool, closed-door parallels with stadium project…
30.1.14 DCC broke → More PPPs to line private pockets and stuff ratepayers
20.1.14 DCC Draft Annual Plan 2014/15 [see this comment & ff]
16.11.13 Community board (Mosgiel-Taieri) clandestine meetings
25.1.12 Waipori Fund – inane thinkings from a councillor
19.5.10 DScene – Public libraries, Hillside Workshops, stadium, pools
12.4.10 High-performance training pool at stadium?

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DCC: Mosgiel Pool private workshop Tuesday (tomorrow)

Updated post Wed 4 Mar 2015 at 7:55 p.m.

According to Mayor Cull all on his lonesome….

### dunedintv.co.nz March 4, 2015 – 7:03pm
Mosgiel pool development expected within five years
A new swimming pool complex at Mosgiel is likely to be developed within the next five years. That’s the expectation of Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull, following a planning workshop on the proposal. He says there’s likely to be a crucial decision made even sooner.
Video

Pool 7Proposed Taieri Aquatic Centre [click to enlarge]

Taieri Community Facilities Trust (aka ‘Pooling Together’) — Who we are

### ODT Online Sun, 1 Mar 2015
Workshop to discuss Mosgiel pool options
Source: The Star [primary: DCC media release 24.2.15]
Dunedin City Councillors and the Taieri Communities Facilities Trust (TCFT) will hold a workshop on Tuesday to discuss proposals to build a new pool in Mosgiel. Mayor Dave Cull said the workshop, on March 3, would be an opportunity to discuss the framework around which the decision-making process needs to be based.
During Long Term Plan (LTP) discussions last month, the council agreed to include information on two-pool, three-pool and four-pool Mosgiel Pool options as unfunded options in the LTP consultation document for public feedback in March and April.
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RESPONSE
Submitted to ODT Online. Not published.

Private facilities trust
new
Submitted by ej kerr on Sun, 01/03/2015 – 6:24pm.

TCFT is a private trust, its trustee board has not been democratically elected; the trust does not represent the Mosgiel-Taieri community or indeed the Dunedin community, comprising all residents and ratepayers.

Based on two reports from the trust to DCC (here and here, the second being a revision), both dated 21.01.15, there appears to have been no thorough community consultation whatsoever. The reports, as reviewed by council staff, appear to hold little credence in terms of identified issues and options, and that old chestnut, affordability (or not).

Critically accurate budget costings are not provided.

Projected figures would need to be realistic before full and proper community consultation occurs – but which ‘community(s)’ is it for canvass?

At this stage, to emphasise, the figures appear to be both contrived and substantially deficient. But there are wider matters too, for our collective consideration, affecting the future of the Mosgiel-Taieri area in relation to the greater city area which are sidestepped or completely omitted.

The idea that the trust (with help of council politicians and old boy networks?) is bulldozing to get a pool project budget line into the Long Term Plan is all rather previous, given their lobbying appears to be based on very poor homework akin to winks nudges between self-interested cronies, including Mosgiel-Taieri housing developers (effecting sprawl) and the local business association (mainstreet impresarios).

This ‘much of a fuss’ politicking isn’t helped by recent statements coming from trust chairman Michael Stedman, and the explicit two party / three party confusions of the latest council media release. Mr Stedman knows full well the mounting pressures of the stadium project on council debt levels and service delivery, with consequent erosion of ratepayers’ private wealth as our local population ages. Yet, was he ecstatically happy to compound all that by mustering those who would dive into a pool project for (only guessing) ‘elites’, without checking depth or other safety considerations for the already lumbered Dunedin community. Ah, the true mark of a leader.

█ The trust’s initial intention to meet with members of the Mosgiel-Taieri Community Board? Invitation lost in the mail.

Related Posts and Comments:
● 20.2.15 Taieri Aquatic Centre: 2nd try for SECRET meeting —hosted by Mayor
● 13.2.15 ‘Taieri Aquatic Centre’, email from M. Stedman via B. Feather
● 10.2.14 Dunedin City Councillors invited to Secret Meeting #Mosgiel
21.1.15 Dunedin City Council to set rates WAY ABOVE….
15.1.15 Did the pool trust reply, Dr Hamlin?
11.10.14 New Mosgiel Pool trust declared —(ready to r**t)
23.7.14 Mosgiel Pool: Taieri Times, ODT…. mmm #mates
16.7.14 Stadium: Exploiting CST model for new Mosgiel Pool #GOBs
4.2.14 DCC: Mosgiel Pool, closed-door parallels with stadium project…
30.1.14 DCC broke → More PPPs to line private pockets and stuff ratepayers
20.1.14 DCC Draft Annual Plan 2014/15 [see this comment & ff]
16.11.13 Community board (Mosgiel-Taieri) clandestine meetings
25.1.12 Waipori Fund – inane thinkings from a councillor
19.5.10 DScene – Public libraries, Hillside Workshops, stadium, pools
12.4.10 High-performance training pool at stadium?

Pool 2Pool 4Pool 6Pool 5

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Scanned images: These renders by Baker Garden Architects were presented in a project report from the Taieri Community Facilities Trust to the Council during pre-draft Long Term Plan 2015/16 meetings in January. Extra copies were provided for the public gallery. [public domain]

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Blonde ‘lawyer’ takes over DVML —expect no change

Where do they get them.
Dumb enough to accept the blurb given.

DVML and DCC needed an expert psychologist. Not a token.
But if it makes the Smiths happy.

### ODT Online Sat, 28 Feb 2015
Auckland lawyer takes chair at DVML
By Chris Morris
Dunedin Venues Management Ltd’s new chairwoman says she is up for the challenge of Forsyth Barr Stadium. Ashburton-born lawyer Raewyn Lovett (54), now living in Auckland, yesterday took over from outgoing chairman Sir John Hansen, who was farewelled last night after five years in the role. Ms Lovett told the Otago Daily Times she was taking over an organisation that appeared to be turning a corner, helped by the recent stadium review and the company’s “very energetic” chief executive, Terry Davies.
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Raewyn Lovett 1Raewyn Lovett. In addition to my legal career I enjoy spending time in governance roles. I was Chair of Netball New Zealand for seven years and on the board of TTNL Limited (responsible for the establishment of the ANZ Championship). I am a chartered member of the Institute of Directors. Full profile here.

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Image: Raewyn Lovett with fringe! (tweaked by whatifdunedin)

█ For more, enter the terms *dvml*, *directors*, *davies*, *stadium*, *stadium review*, *misses*, *cull*, *orfu*, *highlanders*, *rugby*, *suite 29*, *tvs* or *hansen* in the search box at right.

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Taieri Aquatic Centre: Second try for SECRET meeting —hosted by Mayor

Remember this?
█ 10.2.15 Dunedin City Councillors invited to Secret Meeting #Mosgiel

How that SECRET meeting was abandoned after being exposed by What if? Dunedin…
█ 13.2.15 ‘Taieri Aquatic Centre’, email from M. Stedman via B. Feather

The email of 13 February indicated the next meeting would include the public: “The benefits of council and the community talking to each over major initiatives can’t be over stated.”

Men who swim [kpbs.org] 1

The latest email (below) suggests a change of tactics.

This is evidence of a ‘new’ SECRET meeting, at the instigation of Mayor Cull !!
(What if? received two copies of the email, leaks….)

A public-excluded workshop for a +$17 million pool complex, a facility designed to line the pockets of private developers (responsible for unfettered housing sprawl on the Taieri) and the good old boys’ whose businesses line the Mosgiel mainstreet —with lashings of Otago Rugby training time and hydrotherapy sessions. To be at Ratepayers’ expense, entirely.

Why is Mayor Cull involved in organising this workshop at 6pm. Will Council staff be paid overtime for their attendance. Why is Mayor Cull involved in this at all when it appears there’s no Council funding in the Long Term Plan (LTP) for new pools at Mosgiel. What’s going on.

We all know how public private partnerships (PPP) fail at the expense of ratepayers and taxpayers. This is well documented nationally and internationally. Be warned. The sleazy Mosgiel/Dunedin crew are hardly honest venture philanthropists; and Dunedin City Council is a lie a minute in the care and presentation of its annual reports.

Email received.
Fri, 20 Feb 2015 at 8:36 p.m.

From: Monique Elleboode [DCC]
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2015 12:56 p.m.
To: Community Board – Mosgiel Taieri 2013-2016
Subject: Taieri Community Facilities Trust – workshop – Tuesday 3 March, at 6pm, Plaza Conference Room

Dear All

The Mayor, together with the Chair of the Taieri Community Facilities Trust, invite you to a workshop with members of the Taieri Community Facilities Trust to discuss the decision making frame work (sic) around the proposed Mosgiel Aquatic Facility.

Council staff will give a presentation covering areas including the Spatial Plan, Council Strategic framework, New Zealand Aquatic facility development guidelines and implications for Mosgiel, options and financial implications.

This workshop takes place on Tuesday 3 March at 6pm, in the Plaza Conference Room, on the Ground Floor of the Civic Centre Building, the Octagon, Dunedin.

Please confirm your attendance back with Monique, 474 3855, or monique.elleboode @dcc.govt.nz
Thank you
Monique
Monique Elleboode
Personal Assistant to the Mayor of Dunedin
Dunedin City Council

Related Posts and Comments:
● 13.2.15 ‘Taieri Aquatic Centre’, email from M. Stedman via B. Feather
● 10.2.15 Dunedin City Councillors invited to Secret Meeting #Mosgiel
11.10.14 New Mosgiel Pool trust declared —(ready to r**t)
23.7.14 Mosgiel Pool: Taieri Times, ODT…. mmm #mates
16.7.14 Stadium: Exploiting CST model for new Mosgiel Pool #GOBs
● 4.2.14 DCC: Mosgiel Pool, closed-door parallels with stadium project…
30.1.14 DCC broke → More PPPs to line private pockets and stuff ratepayers
20.1.14 DCC Draft Annual Plan 2014/15 [see this comment & ff]
16.11.13 Community board (Mosgiel-Taieri) clandestine meetings
25.1.12 Waipori Fund – inane thinkings from a councillor
19.5.10 DScene – Public libraries, Hillside Workshops, stadium, pools
12.4.10 High-performance training pool at stadium?

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Image: kpbs.org – Men who swim

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Gold not at the end of an EFTPOS rainbow, either

Stadium talk had at #DUD

rainbow scares [ebizdocs.com]

This afternoon at ODT Online, Diane Yeldon wrote in asking about ‘Flatter rainbows in the deep south’.

Query attracted the perfect reply:

Explanation for flatter rainbows
Submitted by russandbev on Wed, 18/02/2015 – 3:31pm.

Caused by the weight of the City debt.

rainbow_with_a_pot_of_gold_cartoon_shopping_bag [zcache.com]

And another thing….

Try as I might to be organised and glued to my EFTPOS card at all times, it just doesn’t work, not when I’m thinking ahead.
I forget to take the damn thing out of the machines, why would I wait round for the “Remove Card” prompt in anticipation of a fresh coffee. Huh? The barista, bless him, never sees a problem, he’s busy making the coffee. I get that, I do. It’s a blame-me situation. I drink the coffee, then dash. Going for that last minute shop at New World before they shut, ah-ha, grab the Weekly Groceries. [here enters Chaos…] No Rainbow Help, No CARD. Most of the items in my trolley have a fast date with my freezer. But crap! They’ve been stood up. So am I. No card, no cash for taxi home from supermarket. The evening’s a total mess. Ring coffee place, they have card (phew), run to coffee place (goes against sports podiatrist instruction for short steps only), collect card, retrace to supermarket with two minutes to use cash machine before they shut. Call taxi, lengthy wait for pick-up, get home. Moral of evening panics?
>>> I bloody well prefer swiping my card (it stays in my hand~!!) to these infernal chip cards that I’m predestined to leave lying about. Dammit to hell. Incensed and doubly STARVING.

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Images: (top) ebizdocs.com – rainbow scares; zcache.com – rainbow with a pot of gold cartoon shopping bag

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‘Taieri Aquatic Centre’, email from M. Stedman via B. Feather

Received Fri, 13 Feb 2015 at 5:43 p.m.
BLACK FRIDAY with screwy light

From: Bill Feather [Mosgiel-Taieri Community Board]
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 1:19 p.m.
To: Blackie Catlow; Martin Dillon; Sarah Nitis; Grace Ockwell [DCC]; Maurice Prendergast; Mick Reece [DCC]; Mark Willis; Kate Wilson [Councillor];
Subject: FW: Invitation to discuss the Spatial Plan meeting date to be rescheduled

—– Forwarded Message
From: Michael Stedman
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 10:15 a.m.
To: Bill Feather
Subject: Fwd: Invitation to discuss the Spatial Plan

The meeting with the Taieri Community Facilities Trust to discus (sic) the Spatial Plan ands it’s (sic) potential impact of the proposed Aquatic Centre on the (sic) Tuesday the 17th is to be rescheduled and broadened.

After extremely useful discussions with Mayor Dave Cull we have agreed to reschedule and expend (sic) the scope of the meeting.

Dave, and I agree, felt a wider and fuller discussion about the proposal would assist everyone. To that end Dave will ask Staff to prepare a presentation on all the areas that need to be discussed and considered.

I am delighted at the prospect of a wider discussion. The benefits of Council and the Community talking to each over major initiatives can’t be overstated and continues the immensely valuable relationship the Trust has established with both Councillors and Staff.

The proposed date will be sometime in early March.

Regards
Michael Stedman
Chair [Taieri Community Facilities Trust]
—— End of Forwarded Message

*Italics and brackets added by whatifdunedin

Related Posts and Comments:
● 10.2.15 Dunedin City Councillors invited to Secret Meeting #Mosgiel
11.10.14 New Mosgiel Pool trust declared —(ready to r**t)
23.7.14 Mosgiel Pool: Taieri Times, ODT…. mmm #mates
16.7.14 Stadium: Exploiting CST model for new Mosgiel Pool #GOBs
● 4.2.14 DCC: Mosgiel Pool, closed-door parallels with stadium project…
30.1.14 DCC broke → More PPPs to line private pockets and stuff ratepayers
20.1.14 DCC Draft Annual Plan 2014/15 [see this comment & ff]
16.11.13 Community board (Mosgiel-Taieri) clandestine meetings
25.1.12 Waipori Fund – inane thinkings from a councillor
19.5.10 DScene – Public libraries, Hillside Workshops, stadium, pools
12.4.10 High-performance training pool at stadium?

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

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Dunedin Cycleways: Pet project staff, ‘entitlement’? #irony

“However, I can certainly confirm that it is not the practice of staff to pre-empt any decision-making by the council.” –Ruth Stokes, General Manager Infrastructure and Networks

### ODT Online Wed, 11 Feb 2015
Apology over council staff gaffe
By Vaughan Elder
A Dunedin City Council senior manager has apologised to councillors over a staff member appearing to pre-empt a council decision on cycleway funding. Concern over the actions of staff came up at yesterday’s infrastructure services committee, where councillors voted on the allocation of $570,000 in new Government money to spend on the South Dunedin cycle network. […] In the council press release, senior transportation planner Kylie Huard said the Government funding “will be used” to enhance and expand the South Dunedin cycle network, including providing a link between Shore St and Victoria Rd, via Tainui and Cavell Sts.
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DCC Media Release (30 Jan 2015):
New Government Funding for Dunedin Cycleways

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And another thing….

ODT (11.2.15) Board to pay for road closures
In the article Mick Reece is described as the “council parks, recreation and aquatic services group manager”. Group Manager.

█ Isn’t it time the Dunedin public received an up-to-date Dunedin City Council organisation chart showing reporting lines. To know exactly where those 40+ managers / team leaders (of a total council staff of about 700) are situated, at considerable cost to the ratepayers.

Message to DCC chief executive Sue Bidrose: “Time for fine detail.” And, “Due diligence to Democratic principles, to be learned by Staff.”

[Subtext: it wasn’t simply a typo]

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