Stadiums before affordable housing, again (Dunedin, Christchurch, Auckland) – the Nuts striving to build ‘ball park’ ASSETS quickly develop own shallow pockets.
In 2006 Auckland considered building a national stadium on its waterfront, but abandoned the idea —the stadium was the Labour government’s choice for the Rugby World Cup 2011.
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Stuff.co.nz Last updated 08:02, March 21 2016
Government won’t pay for Auckland waterfront stadium, John Key says
A proposed waterfront stadium in Auckland would not be funded by the Government, Prime Minister John Key has indicated. Calls to build a CBD sports stadium have been backed by several high profile business people, including New Zealand Warriors boss Eric Watson who has offered to help pay for the project. Key told the Paul Henry Show on Monday he personally thought the waterfront stadium was a good idea, but that it shouldn’t be government-funded. “I don’t think we’ve got a great appetite for pouring money into that,” he said.
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Full interview: John Key, March 21, 2016 [Video]
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NZ Herald – the extra SORRY tales
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21.3.16 Opinion: What kind of stadium does Auckland need?
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20.3.16 Eric Watson offers to help fund downtown stadium project
20.3.16 Eric Watson: Build it and the Warriors will make it their home
19.3.16 Visions for a new national stadium
18.3.16 For and against: Waterfront stadium
18.3.16 Editorial: New stadium dream needs reality check
18.3.16 Auckland waterfront stadium could cost more than $1b project…
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I note with somewhat sadness that Elizabeth managed to put such a negative spin in the story in the ODT today.
How can two of the biggest other sporting codes in NZ showing interest (and not just lip service) in playing games in Dunedin be anything but a good thing? I note that they currently don’t play here now, nor have they said that they will play at the decrepit Carisbrook.
Full Story Here
It of course is only a start too. Yes Elizabeth build it and they will come, and yes it will cost us. It costs every other stadium to host these guys, why should Dunedin be a ‘special’ case and expect to get it free? They have laid out how much it will cost and what numbers are expected to break even, they have indicated that they wish to come to town, the rest is up to the company that will run the stadium.
And yes they bloody well will come. The Mad Butcher and Radio Sport will talk about Dunedin stadium all week, there will be people coming from all over the country. My mother who is a mad mad Warriors fan was so excited this morning she rang to see if the stadium was being built for sure. She can’t get to Auckland to see The Warriors, but she sure as heck will make her way down here for the game.
Funny though, like the poo on the beach (yes that again Elizabeth), the water treatment upgrade projects, and almost countless other concerns posed by those opposing the stadium, the question has been asked who and what will be in the stadium, and like we have been saying all along, look what could go in there if you ask and seek.
“The two teams were among a list of clubs and organisations to respond to a letter from the trust seeking expressions of interest for the stadium”
Oh and BTW seems that it wasn’t just the Phoenix and Warriors expressing interest.
### ODT Online Tue, 7 Apr 2009
Warriors, Phoenix express interest in using stadium
By Chris Morris
The New Zealand Warriors and the Wellington Phoenix have sent signed expressions of interest to the Carisbrook Stadium Trust, confirming their keenness to stage matches at the $198 million Otago stadium, if it goes ahead.
Read More Online Here…
The lengths he’ll go to…
OTAGO FARMERS MARKET
In the same news item, Mr Farry said there were also plans for a regular farmers market to be held at the stadium, although it was not known if the city’s existing Saturday morning farmers market would relocate from the Dunedin Railway Station.
“I have had some receptive talks with them. That’s all I can say at this stage,” he said.
I can’t speak for the current OFM Trust but…
Submitted by ej kerr at ODT Online Sat, 04/04/2009 – 12:12am.
Otago Farmers Market at Railway Station
I’ll stick my oar in as one of the originators and founding trustees of the Otago Farmers Market.
If mikenette thinks the proposed stadium is an appropriate place for re-siting the market he/she is meddling amateurishly and unhelpfully with the aims of the highly successful private business governed by a private charitable trust, the revenues of the participating vendors, and what I would credit as the ethical and moral beliefs of many of the loyal shoppers.
I doubt if Mikenette has much inkling of how the business model works peculiar to the current site, the customer base and the general catchment.
The market – at the present location, relying on return customers who shop there for “essentials” – has been recognised as one of New Zealand’s best by leading chefs, food writers, photographers and tourism specialists, amongst others, and by a swathe of international visitors.
We collectively worked very hard to research this business and to implement its set up and continuance. The vendors have been phenomenal in their support and development since.
Why is it people from the pro stadium lobby, and some pushing the harbourside vision of “caféville”, see the Otago Farmers Market as their own and transportable. The market is not the fall guy to bring “life and vitality” to their forlorn, poorly explained projects.
UPDATE See post Otago Farmers Market organisers respond and news item at ODT Online.