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DCC confidential report on Industrial Land (March 2004)

Received today.

This leak in regards to DCC’s establishment of a new industrial zone bordered by Dukes Road (Industrial Variation 9B)…. is an unsubtle reminder of the number of Council-issued claims over the years about the extent (or lack of) industrially zoned land at Dunedin, particularly for argument in evidence (or was it lies and hearsay) at very significant plan change hearings.

Interpretations please!

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DCC Confidential Report INDUSTRIAL LAND Peter Brown 29 March 2004 p1DCC Confidential Report INDUSTRIAL LAND Peter Brown 29 March 2004 p2DCC Confidential Report INDUSTRIAL LAND Peter Brown 29 March 2004 p3DCC Confidential Report INDUSTRIAL LAND Peter Brown 29 March 2004 p4

█ Download: DCC Confidential Report – Industrial Land 29 March 2004
(PDF, 1 MB)

Related ODT stories:

### ODT Online Mon, 12 Oct 2015
Property sales loss $1.07m
By Chris Morris
The Dunedin City Council has spent $5.6 million buying up houses, and even a farm, to smooth the path for industrial development on the Taieri. The purchases were detailed in documents released to the Otago Daily Times, which also showed the council has lost $1.07 million after on selling many of the properties for significantly smaller sums.
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### ODT Online Mon, 12 Oct 2015
Council’s treatment of couple criticised
By Chris Morris
A retired couple forced to fight for five years to sell their farm to the Dunedin City Council were left with “a noose around their necks”, Cr Kate Wilson says. William and Fiona Smeaton owned the 15 ha farm sold to the council for $1.725 million in December last year.
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ODT got led down the garden path by this couple, it appears. It’s out that they don’t have to meet the rates increase while they’re farming – only on conversion to industrial use would the land owner pay $10,000 pa, you say? The poor things had to work more jobs to meet the rates demand, yeah right – TUI.

A quick look at DCC Webmaps for 91 Dukes Road shows (linked to the rates account) the land use as “12 Rural Industry : Stock Finishing”, Total Annual Rates $4,596.60…. tsk tsk.

More at this thread: DCC considers sale of “149 properties”

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DCC broke → More PPPs to line private pockets and stuff ratepayers

Think ‘New Mosgiel Pool’, put the cost back on the Community!
But wait… “WE CAN HELP” says ex councillor Syd (aka The Slid).

### NZ Herald Online 5:30 AM Thursday Jan 30, 2014
PPPs short-term gain but long-term pain
By Tony Holman
OPINION Mayor [Len] Brown has had another vision and is claiming public-private partnerships (PPPs) can relieve the burden on ratepayers. I wonder if he has done his homework. It’s not a vision, it’s a mirage. PPPs are joint ventures between government, or local government, and companies to build major projects such as bridges, tunnels and underground rail – and, in Britain, also hospitals. Too often PPPs overseas end in the failure of the commercial organisation, with the public picking up greatly increased costs to clear up the mess.

PPPs typically involve long-term agreements (25-50 years). They are secret – neither the public nor elected members know the terms. They are weak on accountability with virtually no transparency. They don’t appear on the public body’s “balance sheet” so its financial position looks rosier than it is.

Fixed returns to the commercial business are based on “notional” values and estimates. Real costs are almost always greatly underestimated. PPPs are much more costly than normal public sector construction. Private companies build in higher costs, making the project more expensive and bringing high risk to the venture. But considerable risk is also assigned to the government or local body. Companies can default or go into receivership, creating a debt that has to be paid for by the public and future generations, exactly as if the local body had undertaken the debt directly.
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Syd Brown Mosgiel sign 1

So. There is former chair of DCC Finance, Strategy and Development, Mr Sydney Brown of the Taieri subdivisions and deals to cousins, and his property speculator/investor friends, thinking to drive the new pool project for Mosgiel. Maybe not quite a PPP but damned near it if DCC gives the nod on squishy terms. Your pockets should feel lighter already.

How much can you trust The Slid —as much as the cost of Fubar Stadium.

Two comments from Jacob at the draft annual plan thread:

Submitted on 2014/01/27 at 9:00 pm
Mosgiel Pool. The suggestion from council is for the community board to set up a trust with $30k of ratepayers’ money, to do the consultation and get the public to buy in and dig deep and pay for this $12-$18 million project. It doesn’t take long to work out. This is the same setup that led us up the garden path with the stadium. At last count there were four pools in the area to serve the local population. What happens to them. Will they become another liability like Carisbrook? What and who actually is driving the need for a new pool? I recently asked someone who is close to this out in Mosgiel if there has been an analysis done on the need for a new pool, and was told no. But a certain developer in Mosgiel’s main street has plans for himself and his mates to get the public to front up with the money for the building, then they will be able to base some of their business on site at no cost to themselves. Mosgiel is becoming the dog of the city. Big new industrial area was trumpeted a few years ago, to be the answer to the lack of industrial land needed to attract industry to come to Dunedin, sits empty and of no use to anyone. Then we had all the new residential areas opened up in Mosgiel. Most are half empty with spec houses; good rural productive land doing nothing and going nowhere, while the stormwater drains in Mosgiel only work during a drought, and the roads are a mess, no more seal extension. Mosgiel is becoming known as the land of the retirement village and the mobile scooter. Why spend so much on a pool when so many other basic requirements are not being met. Leave it to the community board? Yeah Right.

Submitted on 2014/01/27 at 11:34 pm
Hype. Not being a res of Mosgiel I am not able to answer your question, but I have good contacts out that way who tell me that most of the pools are available, and maybe there are more than the 4 that I mentioned. By the way what is so special about Mosgiel having a new pool, areas like Green Island, Normanby and out on the Peninsula appear not to have one and are just as far from Moana pool as Mosgiel. It appears that the homework for a new pool hasn’t been done out at Mosgiel, but it appears that it was just being used as an attention grabber for the election and that didn’t appear to work either. Like I mentioned before, this has all the hallmarks of another stadium, all bullshit and no substance, just wait to see who gets appointed by the board to do the consultation. The whisper is that it is all cut and dried.

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16.11.13 Community board (Mosgiel-Taieri) clandestine meetings

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*Image: Syd Brown with Mosgiel sign corpsed and tweaked by Whatifdunedin

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