#OldHat Dunedin bus system hard to use and unaffordable

Lynley Hood is a positive advocate for her area, no doubt – but hopefully she can think more widely than Corstorphine, to the provision of fair and equitable public transport for The Many, wherever they live in Dunedin, who struggle to pay standard fares or top up the ‘dumb’ Go Card —or who have no bus service to their streets at decent intervals with timely transfer options for necessary travel destinations [the currently ‘immovable’ ORC system].

Or thank god, there’s hail apps.

[Is Otago Regional Council up with the technology about to change public transport @ New Zealand —thereby cancelling any profit from the ill-thought diesel-breathing bus hub planned for Great King St in Central Dunedin.]

Black car service [uberinternal.com]

When a new flexible bus ticketing system is introduced early next year in Dunedin and the Queenstown area, consideration would be given to introducing a lower $5 top-up for Go Cards for online payments. –ORC

### ODT Online Tue, 6 Jun 2017
Bus discounts asked of ORC
By John Gibb
Kew resident Lynley Hood is urging the Otago Regional Council to introduce a community services card bus discount to help “transport disadvantaged” people in Dunedin. “Public transport is important for all sorts of reasons, certainly for inclusiveness and giving everybody a chance,” Dr Hood said. If you’re going to proceed with education and get a job, you’ve got to have transport. It’s got to be attractive to everybody, so it works for the people who need it.” She often saw bus users checking their small change to see if they could afford to use the bus, and clearly not everyone could. She has been suggesting this extension of the bus discount system, and other improvements in the Corstorphine bus service, for several years, and made a detailed submission to the council in 2014. More Corstorphine residents would be encouraged to switch to Go Cards by providing the suggested discount for community services card holders, and cutting the minimum Go Card top-up payment from $10 to $5, she said.
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Radiohead Published on Jun 2, 2017
Radiohead – I Promise
I Promise is one of 3 previously unreleased tracks from the album OK Computer OKNOTOK 1997 – 2017.


“Transportation companies compete for customers, and ultimately it is the consumer who makes the choice.” –Chicago’s Department of Business Affairs and Consumer Protection

“Were the old deemed to have a constitutional right to preclude the entry of the new into the markets of the old, economic progress might grind to a halt,” Judge Richard Posner wrote in the 7th Circuit decision. “Instead of taxis we might have horse and buggies; instead of the telephone, the telegraph; instead of computers, slide rules.”

### usatoday.com 4:47 p.m. ET 5 Jun 2017 | Updated
Chicago cabbies say industry is teetering toward collapse
By Aamer Madhani
CHICAGO — Operators of the nation’s second-biggest taxi fleet are now accelerating toward their long-rumoured extinction, edging towards becoming virtual dinosaurs in the era of ride-sharing monsters Uber and Lyft. Cabbies have long grumbled that the sky is falling as they lose ground to ride-sharing companies. Now, cabbies in Chicago are pointing to new data that suggests the decline could be speeding up. About 42% of Chicago’s taxi fleet was not operating in the month of March, and cabbies have seen their revenue slide for their long-beleaguered industry by nearly 40% over the last three years as riders are increasingly ditching cabs for ride-hailing apps Uber, Lyft and Via, according to a study released Monday by the Chicago cab drivers union. More than 2,900 of Chicago’s nearly 7,000 licensed taxis were inactive in March 2017 — meaning they had not picked up a fare in a month, according to the Cab Drivers United/AFSCME Local 2500 report. The average monthly income per active medallion — the permit that gives cabbies the exclusive right to pick up passengers who hail them on the street — has dipped from $5,276 in January 2014 to $3,206 this year. The number of riders in Chicago hailing cabs has also plummeted during that same period from 2.3 million monthly riders to about 1.1 million. Declining ridership for Chicago’s taxi industry comes as foreclosures are piling up for taxi medallion owners who aren’t generating enough fares to keep up with their loan payments and meet their expenses.
….Chicago cabbies aren’t alone in feeling the pinch. In New York, ridership in the city’s iconic yellow cabs has fallen about 30% over the last three years. Last year, San Francisco’s Yellow Cab — the city’s largest taxi company — filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Los Angeles taxi ridership fell 43%, and revenue was down 24%, between 2013 and 2016.
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Medallion Report (FINAL)

[watch video] Fox 32 : Chicago taxi drivers: Industry is teetering toward collapse
Posted: Jun 05 2017 09:50PM CDT | Updated

New York, the new normal….

Motherboard Published on May 27, 2016
Is Uber Killing the Yellow Taxi in New York City?
As Uber’s stranglehold over the taxi industry increases, some New York yellow cab dispatchers have found themselves in an unprecedented predicament: sitting on millions of dollars worth of medallion yellow cabs, but not enough drivers to drive them.

█ Wikipedia: Taxicab regulation

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7 responses to “#OldHat Dunedin bus system hard to use and unaffordable

  1. Elizabeth

    black cars used to mean cops, gangs, a funeral cortège, or now, the ‘re-inventing’ black cab service (local)…….somewhere cold like Dunedin, this time of year, we might have to walk from the hill above South Dunedin or Pine Hill to Dunedin Hospital, carrying the baby, no electricity, no money, poor shoes

    Fueled By Ramen Published on Mar 16, 2015
    twenty one pilots: Fairly Local [OFFICIAL VIDEO]
    Album: Blurryface.

    Yo, this song will never be on the radio
    Even if my clique were to pick and the people were to vote
    It’s the few, the proud, and the emotional
    Yo, you, bulletproof in black like a funeral
    The world around us is burning but we’re so cold
    It’s the few, the proud, and the emotional
    I’m fairly local, I’ve been around
    I’ve seen the streets you’re walking down
    I’m fairly local, good people now

  2. Elizabeth

    At Facebook:

  3. Otago Regional Council is in the process of taking a ‘whole of network’ approach to its bus public transport, as opposed to a confusing and confused conglomeration of routes as before. IMO the overall approach is a much needed and long-awaited improvement. But the details of some individual routes are causing problems for some users. I think this is inevitable, as devising an optimal bus network is an EXTREMELY hard problem (even for computers!). There is every reason to hope that the ORC will be responsive to user feedback over time.
    However, any significant change to what is in their Public Transport Plan requires public consultation and so is a fairly slow process. ORC are considerably constrained about what they can decide by central government rules and regulations. For example, they can certainly not make fares cheaper in one area compared to other areas.

  4. Elizabeth

    The media have well explained the difference in price between what Queenstown people have on offer – compare that to Dunedin from a user point of view.

    I’m certainly no apologist for ORC’s appalling treatment of bus users severely disadvantaged by planner ningnongs, for ridiculous periods of time having had their bus services ripped away without consultation. It’s a travesty and a disgusting indictment on ORC.

    The proposed bus hub is the worst possible solution.

    At Twitter:

  5. Elizabeth

    At Facebook: [read the public comments to the FB post]

    The Notice of Requirement (NoR) better be notified by DCC – the public, road users, and affected businesses must be able to have their say. The views of local businesses have been ignored to date by ORC, it seems. We all need to support our economy and plan for changes in transportation technology.

    Skip the bus hub, go for Hail Apps.

    Urban design and transportation planning staff probably love the coloured road markings but it is pathetic in so many amateur and deplorable ways.

  6. Elizabeth

    Think about the bus turns in and out of Great King St……
    Why only last week I checked out the existing damage to the Cargill’s Corner shop verandah, oh dear.

    At Facebook:

  7. Consultation on the location of the Dunedin bus hub was not well done IMO. People got: “Great King St – yes or no?” and that was it. And then we got Great King St. Hard to believe that any further consultation is going to be anything but cynical. It might result in minor tweaking but the hub is going in Great King St, that’s for sure!
    I think turning buses are going to be an issue. That’s why I would have preferred investigation of a site along Princes St. However, the present hub may not have a very long lifetime. So may be a good enough stepping stone to a good integrated bus network. User behaviour will make a difference. It may change considerably if the hub makes convenient transfers feasible as intended.
    In the meantime, there’s a concern that there may be no buses stopping close to the Octagon. Dunedin Bus Users Group has a petition on about this at the moment. Copies for people to sign at the DCC city library.

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