Cadbury public protest in the Octagon —Saturday, 11 March 11 a.m.

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Tue, 7 Mar 2017
ODT: Cadbury protest planned
Dunedin residents against the proposed closure of the Cadbury factory will have a chance to express their opposition at a protest on Saturday morning from 11 o’clock. Last month Mondelez International, the owner of Cadbury, said the factory would close next year, leaving about 400 people without jobs.
Save Cadbury Community Action Group chairman Don Pryde said the protest in the Octagon would show Mondelez “we are not letting go without a fight”. “To date the Dunedin community has not been able to express its anger and dismay over the plans by Mondelez to shut this factory down. This is a chance for people to have their voices heard.”

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42 responses to “Cadbury public protest in the Octagon —Saturday, 11 March 11 a.m.

  1. Elizabeth

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  2. Peter

    I understand Dave Cull is going to speak at this protest march. Dave also spoke at the Stop the Stadium Town Hall meeting!
    The rest is history as they say.

  3. Hype O'Thermia

    Peter: I wholeheartedly support the workers. Clearly the only reason this factory is closing is because of sea level rise. I am proud to have led Dunedin in halting climate change by opposing offshore exploration for fossil fuels and riding my cycle whenever possible, even when in China on my frequent jaunts in the interests of sistercityhood. Cycle lanes go right past Cadbury. This is one of many indications that Dunedin under my enchainment has gone forward and will continue to do so. Opportunities in IT are opening up, the Cadbury workers will be given our support until they transition into new careers as game developers and casual part-time in-season hospitality workers serving cruise ship tourists. Although manufacturing in Dunedin is doomed the future under my leadership is bright – bright green.

  4. Anonymous

    It seems Dunedin’s Mayor hasn’t a reason to stay away from this protest of a multinational corporation. Maybe Invercargill’s Mayor will attend this one too since the consequences will be felt across Otago and Southland. Maybe the mayors throughout the south will recognise the larger threat of corporate thinking and show a united front on the day – the sort of support that might just raise an eyebrow at the top of Mondelez.

    • Peter

      Anonymous
      Always important to look good and on the side of righteousness, and safe to do so, when a little city mayor is impotent to do anything against a multinational.
      Makes you laugh. Makes you cry.

      • swinging vicar

        Oh, I don’t know why we even try, Peter. There is nothing we can do, in fact, doing stuff is mere ‘righteousness’, when we deludedly thought it appropriate community action. God, I’m so depressed.

        • Peter

          The reality is multinationals do what they want to do. Maximise profits. We can’t keep Mondelez, or whoever, here.
          The protest, in terms of street protest in this case, is pointless.
          As long as people consume multinational products, always at the expense of local producers and retailers, we are on a hiding to nothing.

        • Elizabeth

          Selfish Saturday it is. Care not for those around us in uncertainty or strife.

  5. Hype O'Thermia

    Isn’t Dunedin’s Mayor needed urgently at a sister city somewhere?

  6. Elizabeth

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    Mondelez confirms Cadbury workers are free to join Octagon protest.

    Thu, 9 Mar 2017
    ODT: Cull to speak at Cadbury protest rally
    By Eileen Goodwin
    Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull will speak at a public rally organised to protest the proposed closure of the Cadbury factory in Dunedin. The Save Cadbury Community Action Group is hoping for a large turnout to the Octagon at 11am on Saturday to call on Mondelez International to ditch its proposal to close the factory. Mr Cull confirmed yesterday he intended to accept an invitation from organisers to speak at the rally, but he declined to comment further. Cont/

    Councillors attending:
    Rachel Elder, Conrad Stedman, Jim O’Malley, Christine Garey and Damian Newell.

    • Peter

      ‘Mondelez confirms Cadbury workers are free to attend Cadbury protests’
      Well, that’s decent of them! Also confirms their confident intention to close. I suspect their thinking is that it is best for the aggrieved to let off a bit of steam now, and still hold out some hope, rather than face the prospect of industrial sabotage as the workers leave on their last day at Cadbury.

    • Farmer

      I see Cr Newell fears for the future of Cadbury World. I thought it a logical consequence that Cadbury World will be gone soon also – and rightly so. Surely if the company turns its back on Dunedin, then they can’t expect us to continue to promote their brand. How false and hollow will it look if we have a factory tour with no factory. And the irony would be that they would have to import the chocolate from Australia to sell in the tour shop, even tho the cost of freight was held up as a reason for the closure. If you close the factory, take Cadbury World with you!!

      • Peter

        Indeed, Farmer. Cadbury World without a Cadbury factory would be fake. A cynical ploy by Mondelez, a temporary sop, till they close that too….for the same reason they closed the factory. Like having a Speights beer tasting shop without the brewery.
        Still, some will be sucked in by the sop to our collective hurt.

        • Farmer

          So if you and I can see that Peter, and everyone else that I have spoken to on the subject, how come our councillors can’t? Cr Newell clearly can’t and Mayor Cull is on record as saying he is excited about the prospect of an expanded Cadbury World!!! Really??? How can they be so out of touch with reality and the ratepayers they are supposed to represent.

        • swinging vicar

          You put things rather well.

          Readers often get the impression that commenters here, apart from religionists, are prominent movers, shakers and heavy hitters who don’t physically remonstrate at all, apart from Elizabeth, who would not hesitate to bang together heads of the obtuse.

      • russandbev

        Farmer is dead right. There is no point in a “Cadbury World”. All it would be would be a retail outlet selling a product made by a company that doesn’t give a damn. And once the factory shuts its gates – and this will happen despite what is said at rallies, why would such a shop operate in a place that is a memorial to what once was?

      • Peter

        I think some councillors thought it politic to attend the protest. Some possibly have no idea about the dynamics of multinationals and their quest for financial aggrandisement.
        Some may be naive at best.

  7. Calvin Oaten

    Oh dear, now the Mayor, plus Rachel Elder, Conrad Stedman, Jim O’Malley, Christian Garey and Damian Newell are all going to be at the Cadbury protest meeting. Why? As a hope for redemption? Not likely, and Dave Cull full well knows this, it’s just a chance of picking up some ‘brownie’ points. As for the rest, well who even knows of them, least of all the Mondelez International directors. Could be a good display of Dunedin’s gumption, or at least the gold chain and Ermine. Or not.

    • Elizabeth

      Heard the speeches – all good, including Dave’s. Have photos will publish later. Not (!!) a large public turnout. It would be easy to say too many people look after their own backsides and shut their eyes – but the circulating and online petition says otherwise – over 12,000 people have signed. The call today was for Mondelez to return to the negotiating table – that’s a fair and reasonable expectation.

      Workers at the Australian Cadbury plant are said to be worried the same will happen to their enterprise. They sent over their union banners for today’s protest, in solidarity.

      Solidarity is a powerful sentiment —where it is absent today from the locals For Locals, gives considerable pause, to me anyway.

      • Hype O'Thermia

        Solidarity – a bit meaningless against a multinational that has downgraded the standard of its product for the sake of profits. Mondelez has no concerns about Dunedin, and that’s how it is – it is so big it has no loyalty to ANY country, only to shareholders, and only because if it doesn’t produce profits and the share price plummets the banks (again multinational and without loyalty to anyone) will show no mercy to them.
        Solidarity? It died when “private enterprise does everything better” and “less regulation” and all those brave new Thatcher/Reagan/Douglas McTruths spread as social typhoid throughout the previously civilized world.
        Don’t argue with multinationals, find ways to avoid them. Put your money (=power) into small and local whenever possible. Goods, services. Making mending and innovating. Embrace the new and treasure the best of the old, esp if it keeps your money/efforts local. Voting too, but that’s only once every 3 years, the other things can be done all the time. Don’t believe politicians with a track record of wobbling integrity eg eloquent sincere pro-transparency mayoral personages.

        • Elizabeth

          Callous disregard from What if? contributors for the Cadbury workers – unbelievable. Godsakes.

  8. russandbev

    I suspect not a lot of sympathy for the Cadbury product leading to a bit of a conflict in some people’s minds. A big question will be what to put on the site when it inevitably shuts. The new smaller hospital?

    • Elizabeth

      People first – chocolate at bottom of the concern list.

      • Peter

        The treatment of the Cadbury workers by Mondelez is cavalier and cruel.
        My point remains concerning multinationals/ globalisation. Until governments learn to not sign us up to restrictive trade deals with such organisations and trade aggressive countries like the USA and China, and actually work to break up monopolies, nothing will be achieved for workers beyond futile shows of sympathy with nothing else to offer.
        There was talk immediately after the Mondelez action of local councils giving support. How’s it going? There was apparently some spare capacity of unfilled jobs in Dunedin and Clutha.
        Aside. A couple of weeks back the ODT had an Insight feature of a similar Cadbury closure in England. Interesting background story, but sorry l forget the town mentioned.

      • russandbev

        Everyone has concerns and sympathies for the workers. But they are the unfortunate and highly regrettable victims of a company that truly operates only on a global basis. Cadbury doesn’t care for anything but their shareholder profits.

      • Hype O'Thermia

        It’s hard to make a protest that plainly supports the workers without also appearing to support the low-grade product they produce. No criticism of them intended, it was never up to them to choose to cut quality for the sake of higher profits. Not that the extra profits were reflected in their pay rates, then comes added insult – despite being very good workers (admitted by company) they are thrown on the scrap heap along with quality chocolate.
        Interesting whine today: http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/mondelez-hits-back-union-over-confidential-info
        “The union leaftlet says Mondelez told E tu some of the Dunedin factory’s machinery was “so old that it will be sent to scrap”.
        The Otago Daily Times had sought comment from Mondelez on Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull’s comments at the rally, but its emailed response criticised the union.
        “The brochure handed out included information that has been shared during consultation.
        “The union has shared information that we agreed would be confidential.
        “While we continue to ensure that we respect the agreement we have with the union for consultation information to remain confidential, we’re disappointed that the union has not respected this with the information it has shared [at the rally].” a Mondelez spokeswoman told the ODT.
        When contacted, E tu industry strategy director Neville Donaldson denied breaching confidentiality. The machinery comment was not part of the official consultation process, he said.
        “It was just general discussion.
        “But even if it was [part of consultation] it’s not exactly what you’d call trade secrets.
        “If that’s all they’ve got to moan about they haven’t got a hell of a lot.”

        Yeah, play the victim card. Boo-hoo, poor Mondelez.

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  9. Hype O'Thermia

    Dream on! As if Dunedin people protesting would make any difference to Mondelez. They shafted their CUSTOMERS (ie source of profits) with downgrade price-raised chocolate and they’re going to care about “mere” workers?

    • Elizabeth

      Ditto my last comment. The way this is going What if? will be considered for closure.

    • Farmer

      I agree Hype. The protest was pointless, but gave some people a place to vent their anger and maybe feel better for it. Don’t for a minute think that people not attending a protest = apathy. It’s just being realistic. The decision has been made by a big corporate, so get used to it and move on.
      Maybe the wheel will turn full circle – I think it has in some cases – and small local boutique businesses will spring up and be supported. Being ‘anti globalism’ is fine, but be prepared to pay more for products that are locally produced. Many people will, if given a choice.
      Being ‘anti globalism’ is a great ideal and most people would support it in principal, but we all are guilty of enjoying the benefits of cheap TV’s, phones, computers etc. The price of some of these items are ridiculously cheap and we all think its great when we walk into the shop.

  10. Elizabeth

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    Last month, Mondelez told workers it planned to close the Dunedin factory by March 2018 and lay off more than 360 workers.

    Sat, 11 Mar 2017
    ODT: Cadbury closure [+ Video]
    By Eileen Goodwin
    Dunedin Mayor Dave Cull has called out Mondelez for refusing to take up the city council’s offer to discuss options for keeping the Cadbury factory open. About 200 people braved a chilly morning to attend a rally this morning in the Octagon to urge a change of heart from Mondelez.
    ….In his strongest public comments yet on the closure threat, Mr Cull told the rally he was disappointed with the lack of response from the multinational. […] Mr Cull said Mondelez would be “incredibly misguided” to close the “efficient and profitable” factory and lay off the “top performing” workforce. […] Mr Cull said the closure was not, as some had claimed, a “foregone conclusion”.
    ….Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei said Dunedin had been caught in Mondelez’s worldwide cost-cutting drive, which had seen it lay off thousands of workers.
    ….Labour Dunedin South MP Clare Curran […] challenged the National-led Government for its perceived lack of action over Cadbury. “Where were you? What did you know?” Ms Curran said.
    Dunedin North MP David Clark, city councillor Damian Newell, union supporter Roger Tobin, E tu organiser Neville Donaldson, Cadbury worker Donna Bouma, and event organiser Don Pryde also spoke. Cont/

    █ The Otago Daily Times is seeking a response from Mondelez to Mr Cull’s comments.

  11. Calvin Oaten

    Oh dear!! This issue is assuming far more than it warrants. First Mondelez doesn’t give a ‘toss’ about Dunedin’s welfare, only the shareholders’ interests. Mayor Cull’s talk is all bluster based on nothing but electioneering blather. He’s been seen as a lightweight in this area before, witness the Stadium debacle as an example. The shame is that the people seem taken in by his demeanour.
    The suggestion that the ‘What if?’ site is in jeopardy is a hollow defeatist suggestion of no merit whatsoever either. Everybody go and take a pill, Cadbury’s closure is no big deal compared with Hillside or any other happening. In my lifetime in Dunedin I’ve seen countless closings, yet Dunedin still is here. You would wonder wouldn’t you?

  12. Elizabeth

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  13. Elizabeth

    Mon, 13 Mar 2017
    ODT: Union denies confidence breach
    By Eileen Goodwin
    The union representing Cadbury workers has denied revealing confidential information about the Dunedin factory. Yesterday, Mondelez said a leaflet distributed by Etu at the rally on Saturday revealed that most of the $80million invested in the factory in the past decade was spent by the previous owner. Of $80million invested in the Dunedin factory in that time, only $8million was from 2010 onwards, the leaflet says. Cont/

  14. Elizabeth

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    Tue, 14 Mar 2017
    ODT: Friction present in Cadbury process
    By Eileen Goodwin
    Mondelez appears to have reached a stalemate with the union representing Cadbury workers and wants to close the consultation. […] Etu industrial strategy director Neville Donaldson said Mondelez had not given detailed reasons for the proposed closure, which it was legally required to do in the consultation. […] Last week, the company told the union it might decide to wrap things up and make a final decision. “And my response to that was then we’d just put it in the hands of the lawyers and let the courts decide who’s right and who’s wrong.” Cont/

  15. Elizabeth

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  16. Elizabeth

    Dunedin City Council – Media Release
    Mayor laments confirmation of Cadbury closure

    This item was published on 17 Mar 2017

    Mayor of Dunedin Dave Cull says he’s extremely disappointed and saddened that Mondelēz International has confirmed it will close its Dunedin Cadbury factory. Mr Cull says that as well as being devastating news for the workers affected and detrimental for the city’s economy and the Dunedin community, he still believed the decision to close the factory was misguided and wrong. 
    “The Cadbury factory is efficient and profitable, with a highly skilled and loyal workforce. I believe Mondelēz has underestimated the contribution of our city to their success and they will ultimately regret this decision.”
    Mr Cull says he took some comfort, however, from the fact that Mondelēz had listened to his and other city leaders’ calls to look at options for some continued processing for the local market.
    Mondelēz has committed to being part of a working group also including Mr Cull, the E tū Union and other city leaders, to look for potential third-party manufacturers to continue producing some key Cadbury products for the New Zealand market.
    Mr Cull says he is also heartened that Mondelēz has committed to redeveloping and growing Cadbury World, which is a significant component of Dunedin’s tourist industry.
    “I look forward to getting back around the table with the other working party members to make the best of a bad situation and achieve the best possible outcomes for our community from here.”  
    Mr Cull says his other main focus will now be on making sure the appropriate agencies help to support those workers, families and other members of the community affected by the closure.
    “I am gutted for the workers affected by the closure. The appropriate agencies and organisations will pull together to support them – whether that be through facilitating opportunities for new employment, re-training or any other practical measure.
    “A wide number of other city leaders and agencies have expressed their desire to be part of a city wide support effort and I know they will follow through,” he says.

    Contact DCC on 03 477 4000
    DCC Link

    [ends]

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    Cadbury World’s shift into the old Dairy Building, which fronts on to Castle St, was in train before Mondelez announced the closure proposal last month. Construction work for the $3 million redevelopment has begun. Once completed next year, it was hoped the expansion could support an increase in visitor numbers from 110,000 to 180,000 per year. At present it employs 36 staff part-time, which could increase. (ODT)

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  17. Hype O'Thermia

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/factory-site-mooted-hospital-rebuild
    Brilliant scheme, again right on the spot for cyclists splatted on the highway where fools decided to insert cycle lane.

  18. Elizabeth

    Sat, 18 Mar 2017
    ODT Editorial: Testing Dunedin’s resilience
    OPINION As expected, the axe has fallen. Multinational Mondelez, a $30 billion revenue company with 107,000 staff, is ending chocolate manufacturing in Dunedin. Concerted efforts to persuade the company to change its mind during the four weeks of “consultation” came to nothing. Mondelez will have done its sums, have its strategies and so a relatively small factory in the south of remote New Zealand was doomed. Once the initial announcement was made, a miracle was not going to happen.
    This outcome, whatever the coating of soothing words, leaves a bitter taste.  Supposedly, the factory was efficient, the workers first-rate and Dunedin’s climate suited chocolate-making. All that counted for nothing, and the city’s long history in chocolate manufacturing will now end.
    The taste must be especially bitter for the staff, many of whom are long-serving and some of whom lack easily-transferable skills. And there are all the contractors and suppliers that spin off a large manufacturer who will lose custom and, potentially, the ability to employ all their staff. Cont/

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    Sat, 18 Mar 2017
    ODT: Oamaru eyes Kiwi brands
    By Eileen Goodwin
    An Otago/Southland manufacturer is being sought to make “iconic” Kiwi confectionery brands, Mondelez said yesterday after announcing the closure of the Dunedin Cadbury factory. […] A new working party involving Mondelez,  Etu union, Dunedin City Council, the Otago/Southland Employers’ Association, and local MPs will work on issues arising from the closure. Mondelez Australia and New Zealand managing director Amanda Banfield said the Kiwi brands, which include Jaffas and Pineapple Lumps, make up just 10% to 15% of the factory’s output. Ms Banfield said a local manufacturer had expressed strong interest in the brands. She declined to confirm whether it was Oamaru’s Rainbow Confectionery. At least two Otago/Southland manufacturers had been identified as potential third-party manufacturers, neither of them in Dunedin. Cont/

  19. Hype O'Thermia

    We should be concentrating on building OUR producers of good confectionery and other foods. Forget the Cadbury week of self-promotion through Jaffas, let’s have a week of OUR best. The handouts from DCC for that promotion could pay for local producers to have open days, giveaways, collaborations with other creatives to develop characters (like Cookie Bear) and dance, juggling, fun stuff, sack races in cocoa sacks and coffee sacks, old-timey celebration of home-made and wholesome without strange E-numbers. Like Farmers Market but crazier, partier, and lasting a week, or a long weekend for starters. Point being, transfer attention from what we are losing to what we’ve got and can build up.
    DCC subsidised the Cadbury thing – that’s gross, but it’s a good argument for transferring the same amount to OUR producers.

  20. Hype O'Thermia

    Dunedin’s “Beyond Purple” festival! Celebrating best and real and local. Wouldn’t it be great if other things could be assembled into the same period, like the poultry show so people could see real heritage breeds, linking to the idea of kindly produced eggs and respect for their feathery producers.
    In a way respect is a big part of this. Respect for quality ingredients, for good workers, for integrity, for treating all our resources right. The opposite of what multinationals do.

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