M-alicious treatment dealt to #Wests

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Dunedin soft drinks institution subjected to “full-scale assault” from medical officer of health and licensing inspector. (ODT 16.8.16)

Fri, 2 Sep 2016
Scoop: Mayor disappointed by ARLA Wests Cordial Decision
Dunedin (Thu, 1 Sep 2016) – The Mayor of Dunedin, Dave Cull is disappointed the new alcohol legislation has caused South Dunedin company Wests Southern Liquor to lose its licence.

Fri, 2 Sep 2016
ODT: ‘Crazy’ decision to strip Wests of liquor licence, owner claims
A Dunedin soft drinks institution has had its liquor licence stripped in what its owner is calling a “crazy” decision. Wests (NZ) Ltd’s director Alf Loretan said he was “very disappointed” with the Alcohol Regulatory and Licensing Authority decision, which will most likely signal the end of his and his wife’s stressful two-and-a-half-year fight for their 140-year-old Bay View Rd business to retain its licence.

Thu, 1 Sep 2016
Stuff: Last call for iconic Dunedin soft drink retailer Wests?
Dunedin’s mayor has lashed out at “ridiculous” alcohol licensing legislation after it cost a local company its licence to sell booze from its factory shop. Wests (NZ) Ltd has lost its fight to keep its liquor licence. The company has been trading in Dunedin for 140 years. […] To qualify for a liquor licence, Wests needed to prove 85 per cent of its sales were for alcohol, which it did not do. The case was heard by the Alcohol Regulatory and Licensing Authority (ARLA) earlier this month, after Southern medical officer of health Marion Poore and Dunedin district licensing inspector Martine Cashell-Smith appealed a decision by the Dunedin District Licensing Committee (DLC) to renew Wests’ liquor licence.

Wests logo [wests.co.nz]

WESTS is proud to be New Zealand’s oldest continuous manufacturer of Cordials and Soft Drinks. The Wests brand began back in 1876, the same year another local family, the Speight’s, began their brewing business….

Website: http://www.wests.co.nz/

█ Read about the history of the company and what it does now at http://www.wests.co.nz/history

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5.7.16 #Wests —Councillors ??! Please act. [DCC out of order.]

Posted By Elizabeth Kerr

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12 responses to “M-alicious treatment dealt to #Wests

  1. Calvin Oaten

    Unless Dr Marion Poore turns her attention to, and deals with the supermarkets on the question of liquor separation from all foodstuffs, fresh and processed, demands separate tills and isolation from underage clients, then she stands indicted as a stool pigeon of the industry with Wests being the sacrificial lamb. The whole exercise reeks of ‘graft’, ‘collusion’ and ‘deep state politics’. Again, where was the DCC in its citizens’ protection and fairness? Mayor Dave Cull once again demonstrates his ineffectiveness as a leader.

    • Calvin
      So much for the “10,000 more jobs of Calamity Cull” as another one bites the dust in Dunners. He’s firmly into negative territory on that score. But he simply wrings his hands in despair. Someone might be tempted to wring his neck.

  2. Hype O'Thermia

    Children not only see liquor a couple of steps from food in supermarkets they see it in people’s trolleys along with food and nappies and laundry detergent. They see it in their parents’ and other people’s trolleys, they see it going through the checkout, they see it loaded into cars.

    What are Dunedin’s X-treme Jobsworths, Marion Poore and Martine Cashell-Smith doing to protect children from this exposure to alcohol associated with foodstuffs?

    Either they have a fully formed plan to deal with this shock-horror risk to children or they have made use of one of NZ’s barmy (and blind-eye’d by the wise) laws to persecute one small well respected company run with utmost probity by good decent people for generations.

    It’s easier to make more laws than to prune out silly, and out of date, and unfit-for-purpose ones. Unfortunately there is barminess lurking in the statutes that can be picked out and used inappropriately by those who wish to cause mischief or earn brown[nose]y points, perhaps to impress the boss. NB it doesn’t unless the boss is a total tosser.

  3. Elizabeth

    Witches to the Wests.

  4. Elizabeth

    ### dunedintv.co.nz Fri, 2 Sep 2016
    The South Today
    Liquor license declined for long-standing Dunedin business
    The Alcohol Regulatory and Licensing Authority has declined the liquor license of Wests Southern Liquor in Dunedin. The Bayview Road business has been a soft drink manufacturer for more than 100 years.
    Its license renewal was approved in September last year. However, a month later, both the Medical Officer of Health and the DCC Licensing Inspector appealed the decision.
    Wests’ Director Alf Loretan says they’re not going to appeal at this point, but they are disappointed and frustrated. However he’s thankful for all the community support they’ve received, and says they’ll find a way to carry on. The application drew no public opposition or any objection from Police, but was opposed by the Medical Officer of Health.
    Ch39 Link

    Channel 39 Published on Sep 1, 2016
    Liquor license declined for long-standing Dunedin business

  5. Elizabeth

    Received from Douglas Field
    Mon, 5 Sep 2016 at 10:34 a.m.

    Wests fget eaten up  small

  6. Elizabeth

    Meanwhile in the Wild Wild Wests [supplied]

    The DEA officer stopped at a ranch in Texas, and talked with an old rancher
    He told the rancher, “I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs.”
    The rancher said, “Okay, but don’t go in that field over there….”, as he pointed out a distant location.
    The DEA officer verbally exploded, saying, “Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me!” Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removed his badge and proudly displayed it to the rancher. “See this badge?! This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I f**king wish…. on ANY land! No questions asked or answers given! Have I made myself clear…. do you understand???”
    The rancher nodded politely, apologized, and went about his chores.
    A short time later, the old rancher heard loud screams, looked up and saw the DEA officer running for his life, being chased by the rancher’s enormous Santa Gertrudis bull…. With every step the bull was gaining ground on the officer, and it seemed likely that the officer would be gruesomely gored before he reached safety. The man was clearly terrified.
    The rancher threw down his tools, ran to the fence and yelled at the top of his lungs…. (I just love this part….)

    “Your badge…. show him your F**kin BADGE !! “

  7. Callum

    I heard about this on facebook through ODT. I was disappointed by this move. It wouldn’t be good to see a small business such as Wests to vanish because of these policies. Particularly if its been around for ages.

    The whole idea of a store selling liquor, eventually attracting young customers to alcohol sounds silly.

    I remember drinking Wests as a child. Are the drinks any good?

    • Hype O'Thermia

      Yes if you like sweet fizzy drinks. I’m too old now to give a current opinion :-)
      Fond memories of the big dispensers with a tap, on shop counters. Pear and Pineapple served in very solid glasses to drink on the premises. Early days version of re-use is better than recycling, which is better than landfill, which is better than broken glass all over the place. I expect there is a regulation against it now, or equipment for washing glasses is so hi-tech and expensive it has been priced out for ordinary corner dairies.

  8. Hype O'Thermia

    Minister cautions against Wests’ reprieve
    Justice Minister Amy Adams is to review the decision to strip South Dunedin soft drinks company Wests of its liquor licence.

    ….Ms Adams said supermarkets remained ”very well regulated, controlled and run” and had low levels of non-compliance or behavioural issues associated with alcohol they sold. ”What people do with the alcohol when they get it home, and whether they drink it responsibly and whether they go and cause harm, is another issue. ”It’s very difficult to hold a supermarket responsible for what people do in their living rooms.”

    Logic, much?

    How many underage purchaser issues in Wests’ 140 year history?
    Supermarkets don’t get the “behavioural issues associated with alcohol they sold” on their premises because those “issues” occur after purchasers take the alcohol away and D-r-i-n-k it. Duh.
    ”It’s very difficult to hold a supermarket responsible for what people do in their living rooms.” So the rules on where it can be sold achieve – what? Anything? Nothing? Give patch protection to powerful overseas owned supermarkets? Provide a way to hit small sellers and make it look as if the real issue, overuse of alcohol by those who drink more than their minds and bodies can handle, is being addressed?

    • Elizabeth

      Modem problems today and complicated by ‘extra data’ issue on smartphone (now escalated for technical assistance by Vodafone NZ).

      Emails are now flowing in to desktop. No ability to update website until now.

      Elizabeth, Site Admin

  9. Gurglars

    Fight outside problem supermarket


    However no move to close supermarket.

    No problems at Wests-


    Bureaucrats as usual take the point of lowest interest and resistance and demonstrate illogical bias.

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