WCC’s free lunch for a car | Vandervis challenges DCC legal advice

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‎Tue‎, ‎26‎ ‎May‎ ‎2015 ‎at 8‎:‎10‎ ‎a.m.

### Stuff.co.nz Last updated 05:00, May 26 2015
Editorial: Councillors don’t deserve a free lunch
OPINION: It is odd that Wellington City Councillors think the ratepayers owe them a free lunch. They don’t. Councillors say they don’t have time to go out and get lunch, so they must carry on working without it. “People have been getting grumpy,” explains Councillor Andy Foster. Therefore, the ratepayers must provide lunch. This argument is truly ridiculous. It means, apparently, that the politicians are incapable of doing what everyone else does, which is to have lunch within the usual times. They will say, of course, that they are busier than the other people. […] The councillors are in the difficult position that two years ago they scrapped free lunches, partly as a cost-cutting measure and partly as a sign that they were willing to share the pain. If those arguments were valid then, they are still valid now. So consider the cost-cutting argument. Officials are now recommending a 5.1 per cent increase in rates in 2015. Part of this will be $20,000 for councillors’ free lunches. This is about half of what the councillors’ free lunches used to cost before they scrapped them in 2013. Some will say this is a reasonable “compromise”. […] Councillors might now argue that $20,000 is a piffling amount in the context of the capital city’s budget, and of course it is. But suppose a burglar stole a car worth $20,000 from the city council’s fleet. This is also a trifling sum in the context of the city’s property assets. Would the councillors wink at that too?
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Tears, spats and squabbles (note ODT url for the following item)….

### ODT Online Tue, 26 May 2015
Vandervis ‘contesting voting ban’
By Chris Morris
Dunedin city councillor Lee Vandervis says he has begun a legal challenge to reclaim his lost voting rights, although senior council staff remain in the dark about the details. His move came as yesterday’s full council meeting descended into increasingly bitter exchanges, most involving Cr Vandervis, who told one councillor to leave town and was advised by another to “shut up”.
Cr Vandervis, speaking at yesterday’s meeting, maintained the voting ban was “ultra vires”, as a councillor’s right to vote was “sacrosanct”. He also took exception to the accuracy of meeting minutes purporting to record the decision to remove his voting rights, as well as subsequent committee meetings.
Read more at http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/343501/tears-spats-and-squabbles

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Cr Vandervis said the council’s real success in the Warehouse Precinct had been to “get out of the way” of private developers.

### ODT Online Tue, 26 May 2015
DCC approval for Exchange work
By Chris Morris
The Dunedin City Council is to press ahead with a $1.1 million plan to revamp Exchange Square and create new car-free zones in the Warehouse Precinct. Councillors at yesterday’s full council meeting voted to approve both projects for public consultation over the next few months, which could be followed by construction later this year.
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ODT: Council may bring forward Exchange works
ODT: Jetty St pedestrian area proposed

Report – Council – 25/05/2015 (PDF, 1004.9 KB)
Renewal and Upgrade of Exchange Square

Report – Council – 25/05/2015 (PDF, 2.8 MB)
Proposed Restriction of Vehicles From Sections of Jetty Street

Other information:
Dunedin Central City Plan (all documents)
Exchange Square Upgrade
Urbanismplus: Dunedin Central City Framework (PDF, 9.7 MB)
This full report provides justification for a better city centre, a vision for the city centre, some strategic direction and finally an implementation plan. October 2011.

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

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24 responses to “WCC’s free lunch for a car | Vandervis challenges DCC legal advice

  1. Peter

    Tears, spats and squabbles report by Chris Morris was funny. Ok, maybe a bit bitchy, but you can feel the contempt he has for councillors after years reporting on council business. I think l would be jaded too by now.

    • Elizabeth

      Yep, he did a good job given the temperature around the table.
      I certainly missed the particular wink he mentions, ex councillor Weatherall may have caught it. I was busy on my smartphone placing a comment at What if? when Jinty turned crocodile. I suddenly noticed the weepy silence in the room and looked up…. then went back to my typing. Wasn’t worth the drama. I may have scoffed.

    • Hype O'Thermia

      It is age-old wisdom passed down from generations of women to their daughters that when pleading and reasoned argument fail, turn on the waterworks. Men, the old wisdom goes, can’t cope with a lady’s tears.
      Looks like the old wisdom hasn’t been superceded by fancy modern ways.

  2. Cars

    I don’t mind them getting a free lunch if every last one of them pays the due fringe benefit tax on same. Go the IRD!

  3. Elizabeth

    Jinty is blubbing on 39 Dunedin News now. Silly enough to believe the climate change wastrels’ brainwashing. Weak.

    • @Elizabeth
      May 26, 2015 at 5:53 pm
      Jinty is blubbing on 39 Dunedin News now. Silly enough to believe the climate change wastrels’ brainwashing. Weak.

      Yes Elizabeth. I just watched her pathetic performance. Def not up to ‘Weepy Bill McKibben’s’ level – needs a bit of training if she wants to get an anywhere like a decent effect.

      But the headline summary on Channel 39 (see below) is misleading, equally emotional and quite inaccurate. MASS DEVASTATION if the worst effects blah blah is emotional and seeming to be intended frighten little old ladies like the Mayor. Sea level rise is well documented world-wide and in NZ waters. It is a non-issue.
      Here is Channel 39’s blurb…
      May 26, 2015 – 6:50pm
      [Councillor makes emotional request over climate change issues Dunedin’s in the firing line of mass devastation, if the worst effects of climate change are realised.

      And the Dunedin City Council is calling on the government to address that, at a global summit. It’s a topic close to the heart of one councillor, who’s made an emotional request.]

      It was good that Lee Vandervis spoke about the futility in investing $42m in bio-fuels. Apart from anything else and given the abundance of conventional sources of fuel, it is as waste of potential food material to feed people. This is already showing up on the world scene. But Jinty wouldn’t even think that far ahead. It was also significant that Hilary Calvert abstained. The rest of the ‘sheepie’ councillors were, as usual, a waste of space.

      • Elizabeth

        PAINFUL warning

        ### dunedintv.co.nz May 26, 2015 – 6:50pm
        Councillor makes emotional request over climate change issues
        Dunedin’s in the firing line of mass devastation, if the worst effects of climate change are realised. And the Dunedin City Council is calling on the government to address that, at a global summit. It’s a topic close to the heart of one councillor, who’s made an emotional request.
        Video

      • Cars

        Solid Fuel’s attempt at growing Canola for bio-fuels in Tarras cost $5 of oil based fuels, for $1 worth of fuel. Solid Fuel abandoned its Helen Clark inspired eco fuels projects in the Haka, Tarras and elsewhere once this was established, because it was sending Solid Fuels broke. The councillors are sending Dunedin and its ratepayers to penury so it seems that it is a worthwhile project for Dud -edin.

        • Cars
          You say the councillors are sending Dunedin and its ratepayers to penury.
          I think that they have already achieved that goal. Now they are intent on keeping us all in that state for us. That video was appalling. But hey – it was there for all to see – judge for yourself. But it showed how pathetic Jinty was – Pearl White in the old silent movies did a better job waiting for armageddon on the railway tracks .

    • A further point that is worth knowing regarding biofuels – this from the
      United States National Center for Environmental Economics
      Economics of Biofuels

      Replacing fossil fuels with biofuels—fuels produced from renewable organic material—has the potential to reduce some undesirable aspects of fossil fuel production and use, including conventional and greenhouse gas (GHG) pollutant emissions, exhaustible resource depletion, and dependence on unstable foreign suppliers. Demand for biofuels could also increase farm income. On the other hand, because many biofuel feedstocks require land, water, and other resources, research suggests that biofuel production may give rise to several undesirable effects. Potential drawbacks include changes to land use patterns that may increase GHG emissions, pressure on water resources, air and water pollution, and increased food costs. Depending on the feedstock and production process and time horizon of the analysis, biofuels can emit even more GHGs than some fossil fuels on an energy-equivalent basis. Biofuels also tend to require subsidies and other market interventions to compete economically with fossil fuels, which creates deadweight losses in the economy.

  4. Peter

    Some politicians are truly conviction politicians. Others are pure pragmatists and principles/morality are neither here nor there. Whether you believe in climate change, or not, Jinty is absolutely sincere…. in this regard to climate change. She is a conviction politician, as much as Lee is, but in a different way to Lee.
    Saying that, her conduct concerning the right of freedom of speech, the right to a fair hearing, and the right of people to have their chosen candidate to vote, in the case of the Lee Vandervis COC issue, showed an intolerance of others’ views which are different to her own.
    It is interesting, looking at our local body politicians, how many lack consistency in their overall political direction. They flip flop according to issues that pass their way.

  5. Elizabeth

    Observations, intelligence received. Facts may surprise where sincerity or its semblance are concerned. Young and foolish. What was it about love and lust, hormones. I’ll save the tale for later.

  6. Elizabeth

    Here is Gene Ollerenshaw, Group Manager Transportation (on our left) and, beside him, splutter, Glen Hazelton, Acting Team Leader Urban Design – who is supposed to be the Policy Planner (Heritage) – spot the conflict of hats or was it beards – selling snowballs to turkeys, although it’s hard to recognise him nowadays.

    ### dunedintv.co.nz May 26, 2015 – 6:46pm
    Exchange Square upgrades fast-tracked to prevent urban decay
    Upgrades of Exchange Square and the Warehouse Precinct are being fast-tracked by the city council. Just over a million dollars of work is proposed, to prevent urban decay. And while most councillors support the move, they’re asking for public opinion.
    Video

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    Since when has John Wickliffe Square been named “Exchange Square” ? More bullshit from DCC who last attempted to re-name the Steamer Basin during Plan Change 7 – Dunedin Harbourside – until I noted it to the Commissioners for correction, which they remedied by point in their decision !!!!

    • Elizabeth

      ### dunedintv.co.nz May 27, 2015 – 5:34pm
      Your word on upgrading the central city
      A multi-million dollar revamp of the CBD is being endorsed by city councillors, who say it’s long overdue. Changes are planned for the Octagon, Exchange Square, the Warehouse Precinct and George Street. So the 39 Dunedin News word on the street team asked members of the public if they think the central city needs a makeover.
      Video

  7. Elizabeth

    Here’s another piece of information not reported by ODT:

    The weirdo mumbo-jumbo DCC climate change submission only got Council approval because deputy mayor Staynes (chairing the meeting in Daaave’s absence) used his casting vote. So there was no majority for the submission – councillors were divided. For some unknown reason, Cr Hilary Calvert abstained to let the submission through.

    Report – Council – 25/05/2015 (PDF, 1.3 MB)
    Submission on New Zealand’s Climate Change Target

    To be honest I slept through this until suddenly realising Cr MacTavish had reached the point covered by 39 Dunedin News.

    How bad can DCC get —boredom meant I was only half aware of the vote having happened. Stayed to hear the D-Day DCC whistleblower hypocrisy go through.

    Report – Council – 25/05/2015 (PDF, 143.1 KB)
    Protected Disclosure/Whistleblower Policy

    • @Elizabeth
      May 27, 2015 at 10:53 am
      Here’s another piece of information not reported by ODT:

      The weirdo mumbo-jumbo DCC climate change submission only got Council approval because deputy mayor Staynes (chairing the meeting in Daaave’s absence) used his casting vote. So there was no majority for the submission – councillors were divided. For some unknown reason, Cr Hilary Calvert abstained to let the submission through.

      Well it doesn’t matter a fat rat’s arse what the DCC says about climate change, the NZ government has couched its words to be taken to Paris in such arcane language that it will be totally meaningless. It knows this and also knows that everybody else knows. Just as they all know that nothing will happen at Paris other than the junket to be enjoyed by the ‘troughers’ who attend. Does anyone seriously think that central government will take notice of the DCC any more that the major powers would take notice of NZ? It is well known that the United States has already accepted that China will carry on as it pleases over this matter (ie CO2 emissions from burning coal for as long as they want) and so will India. So the NZ contingent will enjoy the junket and on to the next jamboree. Of course there will be fancy words and toothless documents produced and of course arrangements made for the next bun fight. That is the important bit. Dear little Jinty and our dopey Mayor will get to pretend that it means something but in the end it means nothing.

  8. Hype O'Thermia

    Re: Whistleblower policy
    Does it specify whose responsibility it will be to insert blower’s whistle where the sun don’t shine in such a manner that irrespective of baked bean feasts it will never be heard again?

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