Rugby stadiums not filling #SkyTV

Eden Park []Waitakere Stadium may replace Eden Park

“Still the historical home of Auckland rugby and provided we get cost-effective venue hire, we can make it work.” –Andy Dalton, Auckland Rugby

### 5:00 AM Tuesday Jul 15, 2014
Auckland rugby looks at new home
By Campbell Burnes
The Auckland Rugby Union is looking at the possibility of shifting their ITM Cup home games away from Eden Park as paltry crowds hit them financially. Auckland Rugby has been an official tenant of Eden Park since 1925 and historically has always been associated with the ground and sporting success there. While nothing has been formally tabled, and all five home ITM games this year will take place at Eden Park, the Herald understands there is a growing feeling that a venue such as Waitakere’s Trusts Stadium would be more suitable from 2015 or 2016.
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FB Stadium []Stadium/Rugby propped by Dunedin ratepayer subsidy (direct and hidden)

“When you look back at this time last year when we were all crying into our soup…” –Roger Clark, Highlanders

### ODT Online Tue, 15 Jul 2014
Rugby: Real money to be made from hosting games
By Steve Hepburn
The Highlanders were due to arrive in Durban early this morning and begin preparing for their playoff match against the Sharks on Sunday morning. The side ended up sixth in the table after the final round of games in the weekend and will be on the road the entire time it is in the playoffs. Highlanders general manager Roger Clark said the franchise would make a little bit of money out of making the playoffs but the real benefits came to those that hosted the games. He was yet to finalise how much money the team would receive for making the playoffs but it was not significant, he said.
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█ See comments to this article at ODT Online by russandbev, QsRC, MikeStk and others.

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr

*Images: – Eden Park; Forsyth Barr Stadium


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19 responses to “Rugby stadiums not filling #SkyTV

  1. Elizabeth

    Note the Eden Park story from NZ Herald was tucked in quietly at page 20 in the ODT.

  2. Russell Garbutt

    What a surprise.

  3. The NZRFU has such a high salary structure because of competition. It is not in any way related to our market, but to the European and Japanese markets. Both those are immensely bigger than ours in terms of ‘bums on seats’ and ‘eyes on TV’.

    As NZ is such an insular market, its top talent is constantly being enticed away to better salaries and conditions. It can only ever be sustained by our society providing the expensive stadium facilities and subsidising at every point the operation. All in the name of national prestige.

    An enormous unsustainable ‘circus’ which is being exposed for the ‘fraud’ that it is. I suspect we are now witnessing the ‘end game’ in progress, with much hand wringing and heart burning to come.

  4. Elizabeth

    Superb opinion piece by Harry Love at ODT today – on the opportunity costs of Fubar…

    Community institution feels the pinch
    The Caledonian Bowling Club and its associated social hub at South Dunedin should not be a casualty of the Dunedin City Council’s squeeze on debt.

    • Elizabeth

      DCC will sell the land out from under the Caledonian Club’s feet. It’s had an offer(s) from big box retailers… The fact the building is a War Memorial is of no consequence to the Chief Executive or to City Property.

      • Jacob

        135 years of history is to be put to death at the alter of the great white elephant FBS so that rugby’s arseholes can further push the Dunedin city ratepayers into the clutches of the debt collector.

      • Elizabeth

        ### August 6, 2014 – 6:46pm
        Your word on the Caledonian Bowling Club
        The Caledonian Bowling Club is looking for a new premises, after the Dunedin City Council announced it would sell the land it uses. Members of the club are mad the site has been taken away for the sake of greater council profit. So the Dunedin News team decided to ask the public whether the council should forsake profit to let the Caledonian Bowling Club stay.

    • Elizabeth


      ### 29, 2014 – 5:59pm
      Dunedin’s oldest bowling club forced to close its doors
      Members of Dunedin’s oldest bowling club are disappointed they’ve been told to close its doors. Caledonian Bowling Club members were informed last week that the club will have to shut down at the end of October. And while the building will almost certainly go, members say the club will not.

  5. Elizabeth

    How the Otago Rugby Deal helps us all…. Huh, what? you say.
    The money for Professional Rugby, how much trickles down to the amateur code? None I suppose. But perhaps ORFU’s Richard Perkins can tell us how much Dunedin ratepayers are being fleeced (directly and indirectly via the NZFU/ORFU/DVML deal made in 2012 when David Davies was about)?
    But first Mr Perkins’ profile:

  6. Anne Elliot

    I cringe!

  7. Phil

    Spot on the money, Calvin. The reason why South Africa will continue to call the shots in SANZAR is because their playing time zone is in sync with the prime viewing timezones in France and UK. That’s where the revenue comes from. How many Englishmen sit down at 7am on a Saturday morning to watch the Highlanders playing live against the Hurricanes ? I’m guessing about none. They could stop screening every NZ hosted match and the revenue generator wouldn’t skip a beat. Unless the All Blacks are actually playing a match in London on a Saturday afternoon, the NZRFU carries almost zero global weight.

  8. Elizabeth

    Blah blah blah

    ### July 23, 2014 – 5:39pm
    Newcastle United has nothing but good reports on the city and the stadium
    Newcastle United has left Dunedin with a win, and local football fans wanting more. The international side played Sydney FC last night at the Forsyth Barr Stadium, comprehensively claiming victory by four goals. And despite a hard pitch, Newcastle manager Allan Pardew has nothing but good reports on the city and the stadium.

  9. Elizabeth

    Not waiting to hear from Terry Davies, we have the intel…
    DVML lost big over the football, needed 9630 to break even and only got 7500 because members were free.

    ### ODT Online Thu, 24 Jul 2014
    Match hailed success but no word on costs
    By Chris Morris
    The man in charge of Dunedin’s Forsyth Barr Stadium has declared the clash between English Premier League team Newcastle United and Sydney FC a ”brilliant” success. However, Dunedin Venues Management Ltd chief executive Terry Davies is refusing to be drawn on whether the company running the venue covered its costs, after earlier agreeing to underwrite the fixture.
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    NB. (via ODT) Davies says he was happy with the crowd of 9506; that with the stadium’s 2200 members offered free entry, the total crowd figure pointed to a paying attendance of about 7500…

    • Mike

      Yes and as I pointed out on the ODT site a quick back of the envelope calculation shows that they likely lost something like $130,000.

  10. Rob Hamlin

    DVML ‘Successomoter’

    Losses 0……………..’Brilliant success’
    Losses 2 million….’Success’
    Losses > 5 million………………. ‘Commercially sensitive’

  11. Peter.

    The no comment about the figures re the soccer match is a hoot. As if they would keep quiet if there was a profit and not a loss!
    Personally, l would feel a dick fronting this charade. The humiliation of it all. Still, we pay Terry handsomely for putting himself in this position. His predecessors would be proud of him as well as the silly old duffer they have as chairman of DVML.

  12. Hype O'Thermia

    Many people are disrespected day in, day out for peanuts. Humiliation on that salary! That’s LOLing all the way to the bank.
    Besides there are some people who actually pay for humiliation. “You nasty disgusting boy, put on these frilly pink panties and scrub my floor with this toothbrush while I slap you with a fish.”

  13. Hype O'Thermia

    We O’Thermias were among the first 3 to join E.L. Wisty’s World Domination League. Ours is a long proud tradition.

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