Proposed hotel, 41 Wharf St – “LEARNING FROM LAS VEGAS”

with apologies to Robert Venturi, Denise Scott Brown and Steven Izenour

blue chip casino (grabbing licence)

BUT TRUESCAPE SAID IT WOULD BE SHORT~!!! *WAILS

[how to wrestle the casino venue licence off your competitor]

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54 responses to “Proposed hotel, 41 Wharf St – “LEARNING FROM LAS VEGAS”

  1. Anonymous

    a) pronounce it BETTER-ways and you are right on track
    b) Dunedin Casino has two strikes against it now (the Keenan incident being one)

    The Chinese see NZ as one of 3 things:
    a) a theme park
    b) a place to raise extra children
    c) a safe place to park money

    • Elizabeth

      Earlier comments on Dunedin Casino (Keenan):

      Anonymous 2012/10/12 at 10:39 pm
      Scott + (C) Swann + McLauchlan + Dunedin Casino + Keenan = http://www.gamblinglaw.co.nz/Gambling-Commission-Decisions/gc2906.aspx

      ———————

      Elizabeth 2012/10/13 at 12:32 am

      In that Decision we see:

      “34. In about July/August 2003, Mr Woolley made further enquiries into Ms Keenan’s financial situation through a director of DCML, Mr Stuart McLauchlan. Ms Keenan worked part-time at accounting firm, T D. Scott & Co. Mr McLauchlan was Trevor Scotts [sic] cousin and knew other members of the firm.”

      [Note also – McLauchlan’s accounting firm is the registered office for Barnett Properties who sold 41 Wharf St to the developers of the proposed tower hotel.]

      “35. Mr McLauchlan’s evidence was that he explained to Mr Scott that the casino had some concern over the level of Ms Keenan’s spending and the amount of time she was spending at the casino. He suggested to Mr Scott that a check be made on whether Ms Keenan’s accounts were in order or whether she had access to money. Mr McLauchlan told the Commission that he was advised by Mr Scott that Ms Keenan had received an inheritance from her parents and a marriage settlement. Mr Scott had said to leave the matter with him, and that he would get back to Mr McLauchlan.” etc etc

      ****

      And our old favourite at DIA:

      “63. In February 2005, Mr Harris conducted a preliminary investigation into the alleged breaches for the Applicant. He interviewed Ms Keenan and a number of casino staff. A mix of signed statements and unsigned interview notes from discussions with Ms Keenan and others were attached to Mr Harris’ affidavit. Debra Despard (formerly Ferris), National Manager of the Casino Compliance Unit, reviewed the investigation and took the decision to apply for suspension under delegated authority from the Secretary.

  2. Anonymous

    http://www.betterways.co.nz/about-us/our-team/

    I wonder if this is Jo Wright who was/is married to Trevor Wright who used to operate China Source (doing NZ-China liaison) a few years ago.

  3. Elizabeth

    ”The proposed development is unlike anything existing or anticipated for this site or area … the expectations for the site are still to be framed within the context of construction that is non-fanciful.”

    ### ODT Online Mon, 10 Dec 2012
    Hotel’s fate rests on point of law
    By Chris Morris
    The fate of Dunedin’s proposed $100 million waterfront hotel could turn on a legal argument about its height. A Dunedin City Council hearings committee adjourned on Thursday after four days of arguments, expert evidence and public pleas on the 28-storey hotel, which Betterways Advisory Ltd wants to build at 41 Wharf St. Amid worries about pedestrian access, transport disruption, noise, shading and wind, the main point of contention to emerge has been the proposed building’s towering height. Submitters argued it would dominate its surroundings and disrupt views. However, a legal argument by Betterways and the company’s expert witnesses – rejected by lawyers and experts opposing them – could be crucial to the debate.
    Read more

    ● The hearing will resume on December 17 for a second round of public submissions, expected to take up to three days. A decision is not expected until early next year.

  4. Anonymous

    Applicant’s lawyer, paraphrased: “If this building was not a hotel but an industrial facility then resource consent would not be required. Since this proposed building IS a hotel and not an industrial facility, resource consent is not required.”

  5. Anonymous

    Phil Page should have stuck to triathlons.
    Here’s Maersk’s global logistics hub in Chengdu

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2012-11/17/content_15937733.htm

    • Elizabeth

      At ODT Online:

      5 star – and winking lights
      Submitted by ej kerr on Mon, 10/12/2012 – 1:21pm.

      Indeed blissful to indulge. Rawlinson End – “A tale of everyday country folk from the extraordinary mind of Vivian Stanshall. An episodic radio serial that spawned CD’s, a film and a book.”

      “The story so far…

      “Towered and turreted, feudal and reactionary, the great house of Rawlinson End endures, as does its master Sir Henry Rawlinson. Its chambers and dusty corridors hung with portraits of Rawlinsons and Maynards past now gaze down on many grotesque inhabitants . . . Less than a mile North from the house as the crow flies, longer by road along Gibbet Fork and up the Oxbrake Road, is the village with a newsagents, grocers, and the local hostelry, the Fool and Bladder.[…] . . . .

      “The public house faces Sensible Green, a molehill blighted cricket pitch. Just beyond Rawlinson End, on the arterial road to Concreton, is the municipal sewerage works. Sir Henry makes clandestine visits here, finding relief from his chronic lumbago by bathing in its mud pools. Concreton with its tower blocks and winking lights can be seen in the distance. Sir Henry says it is the future and it hates us. It seems to get nearer all the time. Regardless, the launderette has its uses, so does the local tattooist.”

      Read more here

      • Elizabeth

        ### ch9.co.nz December 10, 2012 – 7:10pm
        Decision on hotel unlikely until early next year
        A decision on Dunedin’s 28 storey hotel project is unlikely until at least late February.
        Video

        [Colin Weatherall] ‘with plenty of conflicting evidence on issues like traffic and shading it was likely expert witnesses would be given time to provide more detail’

  6. Phil

    Which means that Colin is giving the applicant time to fix the holes in their application so that he can approve it.

  7. Anonymous

    He must be getting rewarded with cakes for this latest round of singing and dancing. Stadium Councillors get their favourite treat for performing well, though a couple get a little candy on the side. One pup is being taught the old tricks and their masters do value obedience.

  8. Peter

    I wonder how much Earl baby is willing to contribute, with legal fees, to stymie his opposition.This delay gives both sides time to regroup.
    I bet there is some nasty stuff going on behind the scenes.

    • Elizabeth

      Give them a hotel casino, a train trip and some Peninsula wildlife, then a fast chopper to Eion and Michael’s place. Make Hamish Saxton happy in front of his Tourism bosses.

      ### ODT Online Wed, 12 Dec 2012
      TNZ focus on visitors from China
      By Rosie Manins
      Enticing Chinese visitors to stay longer and spend more in New Zealand will be a key focus of Tourism New Zealand’s next three-year marketing strategy. About 50 Dunedin tourism professionals attended a Tourism New Zealand presentation in the city, led by TNZ chief executive Kevin Bowler, this week. He explained the organisation’s priorities for the next three years, aimed at increasing the value of visitors to New Zealand. Mr Bowler said Chinese visitor numbers had increased 39.2% in the 12 months to the end of October, but about 80% of Chinese tourists only went to Auckland and Rotorua on the back of an Australian trip.
      Read more

      • Elizabeth

        uh-oh

        ODT Online
        Are you in favour of Dunedin’s proposed waterfront hotel? [poll]

        Thread closed
        new
        Submitted by Online editor on Wed, 12/12/2012 – 1:45pm.

        Editor – This thread is now closed.

        • Elizabeth

          Pull your head in, OK John ? Fuckerama.

          ### ODT Online Wed, 12 Dec 2012
          Opinion
          Long-lasting benefits from hotel
          By John Christie
          Otago Chamber of Commerce chief executive John Christie extols the benefits to Dunedin of a large hotel with quality accommodation.
          Read if you dare, What if? Dunedin… will not be responsible for any strokes or coronary failures suffered.

  9. Hype O'Thermia

    Historical note: John McKinlay had an antique shop in upper Stuart St in the 1960s. He was the first that I remember whose shop had no “fillers” – it was small so I suppose there wasn’t the need – of simply second-hand goods of no distinction. Lovely place even for a penniless person to visit, and John was a delight with firm opinions and a nice turn of phrase. “Pisspot of Commerce” was one of his.

  10. Walter. C

    The last Time J. Christie supported a major job creation fairy tale, was the expansion of Industrial land on the Taieri that was going to produce 1000s of jobs. Not long after that 430 workers on the Taieri lost theirs at F&P. Lets see if he has given the Hotel the same kiss of death.

  11. amanda

    Christie, business genius in his own mind, also supported the stadium ‘business plan’; enough said!

  12. amanda

    It’s just more of the ‘trickle down fairy’ con, perpetuated by the same so-called ‘businessmen’ who pushed for the stadium.

  13. amanda

    The neat thing is that Christie has publicly supported the hotel build so if they decide to do ‘a Farry’ and change the hotel to a publicly funded model, well many people will take note of that and remember Christie’s and the Chamber of Commerce’s support. The city is waking up to how things are done the GOB way!

  14. Anonymous

    The Oddity sure gets its knickers in a twist easily. Who closes an online forum? It’s not as though print and space is a premium. That discussion was just getting fired up and then they close it down. Must have upset a Stakeholder.

    Most posts offer at least a tidbit of information in them. I actually think SwampyVillager’s concern about fire service access is a valid one and it would change the circumstances in central considerably. New buildings and even structural changes to existing ones incur significant changes to fire protection and response.

    So on top of that how often would fire protection need to be tested in a 28 story building? How quickly could that many people be moved out of the building? How would local services cope with it? It is an interesting story if the ODT bothered to scour its forums for news tips.

    Sometimes you’ve got to see through the emotion to what matters. Sometimes it’s even necessary to turn an uncomfortable post to see the positive. Flipping a bad one on its head can actually be revealing. But shutting down debate is sort of insulting.

  15. Phil Cole

    Anonymous….I was going to mention fire etc in my submission last week (now on the 18th). At this rate, I’ll have nothing original to say…:) (no ‘smart’ comments please !)…:)

    • Elizabeth

      Phil – very keen for you to include that in your oral submission.
      Water supply to the proposed tower for fire fighting purposes has been approached by DCC (see reports); and there have been questions from the hearing committee as to emergency vehicle access to the site. The normal planning for tall buildings apply – I don’t see a problem that won’t be dealt to via fire engineering and all checks on compliance. As no building plans or construction details have been supplied by the applicant and they refuse to release any detail (because it apparently doesn’t exist…) no-one’s getting very far at all. Remember, Betterways Advisory Ltd just wants resource consent so that it THEN start spending big bucks on develop design / detail design, including engineering of foundations etc etc.
      Totally bankrupt connivance on Steve Rodgers’ part, along with his band of seedy consultants.

      • Elizabeth

        {We’ll probably get a bit of spam at this website in the days ahead – we’re monitoring. If your comment is deleted it will be due to suspicion about links you provide… don’t be surprised. -Eds}

  16. Rob Hamlin

    The delightful QsRC on the McPravda website has an interesting question:

    “I have a question for the reader: when did Oxford change the meaning of “heritage” to dilapidated, run-down, unused and on the brink of collapse?”
    As a reader and as a person who grew up in Oxford (UK) from the late Sixties to late Eighties, I think that I can provide him with an answer.

    The meaning was changed when heritage ‘town’ side of Oxford was eviscerated overnight in the late sixties in the name of progress. A large area of buildings that comprised the old commercial centre of the town was ‘clear felled’ and replaced with that era’s vision of the future (Which is very similar in its brutalism to the architectural dreams of today). The clear felled’ areas comprised nearly all the ‘yards’ that were so characteristic of Oxford’s town centre, and one of its major architectural and social heritages, and that were also home to many small retail and manufacturing businesses.

    The ‘forward thinking’ architectural dreams that replaced them, and that are now Oxford’s new heritage, are home to down and outs, wind-blown litter and a strong smell of urine – Few go there, especially at night. These areas are, to quote QsRC, “dilapidated, run-down, unused and on the brink of collapse”. Only one of the old yards of Oxford survived, which leads to the Mitre Hotel. This sole survivor is now immaculate and heavily trafficked – day and night.

    So that, to answer QsRC, is when Oxford changed the meaning of the term ‘heritage’. Sadly, my home city was not alone in doing so.

    There is no point in trying to reply to QSrC directly. After multiple postings’ disappearances, I have concluded that, unlike QSrC, I am no longer allowed to comment. It is certainly suggestive of the nature of McPravda’s tastes in editorial style and content.

  17. Anonymous

    I love that fellow’s assertion that you could build 100m up on a base of 14m friction piles in loose fill and a known area of seismic hazard.

  18. Hype O'Thermia

    Sure you could BUILD it. How long it would stay built, now, that’s another matter altogether.

  19. Ro

    I thought I’d raised the issue of fire service access in my original submission but all I had said was: “If an emergency were to break out at this height in the building, all emergency services would have to provide their own electronically assisted means of reaching it. Patrons would have to be rescued using equipment that had been acquired specifically for this building since no other in Dunedin would require it.” I had intended to elaborate on this when I spoke in person but I changed my mind. Too late now, unless like Francis Whitaker I can ask for a second bite… Mind you if I did I would concentrate on the S104d tests.

    I see the issue now as coming down to whether or not it passes the two tests: is this non-complying activity able to be approved on the grounds that its effects are no more than minor; and is there an activity that could occupy this site as of right that is 100m high by 70m wide and 25m deep?

    I would like to see all submitters hammer the ways in which the effects of this building on their lives and the city will be major. Relevant to an assessment of its effects is the inaccuracy of the Truescape renderings which appear to depict a tower about 70m high and 50 wide. Its actual dimensions intrude on most of our lives. And its design is too monotonous and too blocky to create an interesting presence on the skyline. The ORC has exposed the fact that once its shadow hits the harbourside quay, that shadow will be there for about 4 hours. In fact, generally speaking everything that is shaded by it is so for that length of time. Whether or not these effects are safeguarded in the District plan, they constitute a major effect on our city. Its effects on heritage tourism haven’t been assessed by the applicant and may be major. But its effects on the development of heritage areas of Dunedin is obvious; it mocks them.

    John Lumsden seems particularly interested in the second test. He has sought from many submitters from both camps suggestions for industrial activities that would be of these proportions. Someone offered a nuclear power silo but these require a footprint of, say, 100mx100m; my thoughts are that you could fit an electricity pylon or wind turbine on that site – but these are typically ca 70m high and only a couple of metres in diameter casting little shadow on surrounding areas. It’s accepted that chimneys are the anticipated reason for the lack of a height restriction.

    I suppose a car or coach-parking building could be this high and there as of right, but it’s hard to imagine such a structure being economic. In fact it’s so hard to imagine that a private investor would ever plan to erect a 28-storey parking building in Dunedin, that I think we can expect our planners not to have anticipated such a proposal and provided against it. I think that we can argue that the lack of a height restriction was to enable silo-like structures, chimneys and pylons and not to enable multi-floor structures to be erected in the industrial zone. And since the plan specifically excludes residential activities in this zone – except where the zone borders Anzac Avenue – the proposal to put a residential multi-storey building in the industrial zone must fail both tests.

    • Elizabeth

      Sent this twice to ODT Online, clearly my phone is having problems with connection to their site only today…

      Closed threads and hotel betting
      Submitted by ej kerr on Thu, 13/12/2012 – 1:20pm

      This thread is lapsing into the same farce that resulted in the Online Editor closing the thread for the hotel poll yesterday.

      If bloggers could read and compute on the scanty application documents for 41 Wharf St (in many ways deficient and of little help to the applicant), all submissions and briefs of evidence, as well as attend the hearings – since it seems they haven’t registered as submitters – they might raise the level of their contributions and sniping.

      We have the incongruous proposed hotel, and the impossibility of its (laughter) saving a city of this size and worth. Let’s face it, tourism in a non-resort town like Dunedin remains in the ‘second tier’ economy. The hotel concept is a flash in the pan.

      However, it’s the drivers around the application that fascinate, and which the applicant carefully omits from public forums. The ‘big’ (now silent) players from Queenstown quite possibly stand to gain much more from this game of fortune than Dunedin citizens and businesses.

      All up, the city council and chamber of commerce are renowned for positing weak strategies to attract economic development in the southern region. They stand a world apart from the successful private producers, entrepreneurs and established businesses responsible for keeping this city humming on the back of new wealth generated from export receipts.

      http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/238485/hotels-fate-rests-point-law

      “abridged as published….” (see my italics above) – so I didn’t do too badly!!
      http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/238485/hotels-fate-rests-point-law#comment-36895

      • Elizabeth

        We get strange search engine terms at What if? Dunedin… on a semi-regular basis like ‘edgar is going to jail’ (paraphrased, sometimes with ‘queenstown’ and ‘dunedin’ added).
        What’s going on people ? Perhaps there’s some conflation with Forsyth Barr’s somewhat seedy performance in the money markets. Remember this? Commerce Commission probe into ‘Credit Sails’ bond sales (NZHerald, Dec 2010)
        And this? Watchdog mulls Credit Sails action (Stuff Business, Jun 2012)
        Lots more links available to misdoings, FB, failing investors, SCF, failing Treasury, and yep, Mr E.
        Fascinating.

        http://www.chrislee.co.nz/index.php?page=newsletter-display&list=2&month=June&year=2012
        “Those who watched the South Canterbury Finance mess turn into a billion dollar disaster will know that the parties who collected huge sums to fix it up included Eion Edgar and Neil Paviour-Smith of Forsyth Barr, CEO Samford Sandy Maier Junior, and Kerryn Downey of McGrathNicol, the receiver. Treasury, naturally, is furious, having seen an enormous bonfire of Crown money occur, a loss of a few hundred million turning into a loss closer to $1.3 billion if one includes holding costs.”

  20. Hype O'Thermia

    This puts the kybosh on developing the harbour area: “The ORC has exposed the fact that once its shadow hits the harbourside quay, that shadow will be there for about 4 hours.” I’m not keen on turning that precinct into a ritzy cafe and apartment area, not yet. It would at this stage spread the “inner city” activities too thinly for the population. But it is not smart to make a decision now for short-term gain that rules out this development in the future when population and resources justify it.

  21. Ro

    I agree entirely – we can’t currently support a harbourside cafe culture as well as a st Clair one and a city one. But one day we might. This will put the kybosh on it

  22. Peter

    Forsyth Barr also having its name up in lights with the failing stadium won’t be too good for its reputation, would it? Oh dear.
    Still, there’s a sucker born every minute who would still invest through them.

  23. Calvin Oaten

    Victor Billot’s attempted ‘satire’ over the proposed hotel, pales into reality, which one suspects he intends. The spectre of a partly completed edifice gracing our skyline far into the future as a monument to the failings of a small city, is hardly what Mr Cull and co have in mind when they talk blandly about creating 10,000 new jobs and making Dunedin the ‘best little city’ in the world. To be sure, he should be very careful about what he wishes for.

    {Victor, victorious http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/opinion/239122/positive-thinking-multiplies-benefits -Eds}

  24. Anonymous

    Regarding fire protection: the City of Los Angeles (you know, one that has several high skyscrapers) has a building code that requires any building over 75 feet to have an emergency helipad on top. The limit of conventional rescue via ladders being 80 feet or so.

    http://clui.org/newsletter/spring-2010/elevated-descent-landingscape-helipads

    • Elizabeth

      Damn there goes the roof garden and terrace that architect Francis Whitaker waxed lyrical about. Not good for marketing the penthouse suite either. Although Eion will be happy for Queenstown, having direct air taxi access!

      The Snorkel won’t work – one of us can ring Building Control and NZFS for a yarn, call it public education.

  25. There is another familiar name among those who must share responsibility for the South Canterbury Finance debacle : Denham Shale was a director of SCF. He is now chairman of DCHL.

    • Elizabeth

      Haven’t forgotten Bill… Denham’s buddy to help restructure DCHL and subsidiaries.

      South Canterbury Finance appoints Bill Baylis to replace Allan Hubbard as chairman
      June 9, 2010 – 10:23am, by Gareth Vaughan
      Struggling South Canterbury Finance has announced the appointment of the Queenstown-based former KPMG partner and ex-Pyne Gould Guinness and PGG Wrightson chairman Bill Baylis as its new independent chairman.
      Baylis replaces South Canterbury Finance founder and owner Allan Hubbard who recently stood down from the board but has been appointed president for life. Edward Sullivan retired from the board on May 31 leaving Stuart McLauchlan and James Denham Shale as the only other remaining directors. Cont/
      http://www.interest.co.nz/news/49716/south-canterbury-finance-appoints-bill-baylis-replace-allan-hubbard-chairman

      Carisbrook Stadium Charitable Trust
      CST Trustees: Malcolm Farry (chairman), Eion Edgar, Kereyn Smith, Ron Anderson, Bill Baylis, Stewart Barnett, John Ward

  26. Anonymous

    Eion Edgar. Denham Shale. Bill Baylis –> Stuart McLauchlan <– Earl Hagaman. I've had nightmares less disturbing than that.

  27. Anon1

    Hagaman through a “totally independent” non-hotel company seeks to decline this proposal so it is hardly fit to paint him as a Queenstown/Christchurch/”stadium” stakeholder xenophobic good old boy in this case. If one is to believe the case for an alternative to the Southern Cross Scenic Hotel Casino license then Hagaman is a competitor to the current proposal which seems at odds with the Stuart McLaughlin evil empire view/tartan mafia view of the world. Let’s live with those idiosyncrasies as long as it supports our world view. After all there’s that local body election next year and no-one posting here has any vested interests in that respect.

    • Elizabeth

      Hagaman owns a lot of investment property in this city. Submitter, Capri Enterprises Ltd is one of his property companies. Their submission shows the number of properties they own which will be affected by the hotel proposal. ORC’s submission to hearing shows the shade paths that implicate some of those property holdings. Yesterday I received by email the notes to hearing from John Hardie, counsel for Capri – these may be available now at the DCC website, I haven’t checked.

  28. Hype O'Thermia

    Well said, Elizabeth.

  29. Anonymous

    I’ve never really thought of Stewie as a Good Old Boy or one of the Tartan Mafia. Certainly not the head of any “evil empire” – there are others in positions of influence already hell bent on that. More of an enabler and troubleshooter protecting their interests. His jack-in-the-box appearances more like a middleman whose reward is based on power by proxy.

  30. Elizabeth

    HERE WE GO
    Things are moving. Like I said, a little trade competition between Dunedin, Auckland and Queenstown casinos underwrites the $100m hotel for Dunedin… watch this space, watch the National-led government, watch Tourism New Zealand parading the goods to the Asian/Chinese visitor market. Pathetic. Where’s the central government investment in research and development boosting New Zealand exports? The politics of ‘casino’ go wide, I mean, what do you do after the RWC 2011 rort when you don’t have a brain for anything except white collar fraud and corruption, in high society?

    Oh. This from Pete:
    ‘Craigs Investment Partners broker Peter McIntyre said Queenstown was New Zealand’s ”hot tourism market” and it made sense for SkyCity to take over the Queenstown Casino so it could push more of its high-rollers south.’ -ODT

    ### ODT Online Fri, 21 Dec 2012
    Share swap consolidates casino ownership
    By Dene Mackenzie
    Queenstown is set to get a boost from high-rolling casino clients following a swap in ownership between listed Auckland company SkyCity Entertainment Group and Queenstown-based Skyline Enterprises. Skyline has bought SkyCity’s 50% share of the Christchurch casino for $80 million and Sky City has bought Skyline’s 40% share in Queenstown Casino. SkyCity chief executive Nigel Morrison said the purchase of the remaining shares in Queenstown Casino was an exciting outcome.

    ”This enables SkyCity to build our international and VIP business in a major tourism destination, which is already a very popular destination for our overseas VIP guests.”

    Increasingly, the VIP customers in Auckland wanted to visit Queenstown because of its high international profile, he said. The VIP guests generated much needed export dollars for New Zealand and would bring extra economic activity to the Queenstown region and the country as a whole. However, the current offering at Queenstown Casino was limited and the venue had been unable to live up to the experience international customers had enjoyed in Auckland.

    ”The purchase today gives SkyCity the chance to focus on providing an exceptional experience in Queenstown.”

    SkyCity had always preferred to be the outright owner of the properties in which it was involved. Skyline expressed an interest in acquiring SkyCity’s 5% stake in Christchurch, which fitted the Auckland company’s strategy, Mr Morrison said.
    Read more

    Skyline Enterprises Limited (156225)
    http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/156225

    SkyCity Entertainment Group
    http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/610568

    I note Wellington-based architect Chris Moller is a SkyCityEG director. Fascinating.

  31. Elizabeth

    Interesting search engine term today:
    dunedin casino change of ownership 2013

    Fishing expedition?

    • Elizabeth

      http://www.skycityentertainmentgroup.com/About-SKYCITY/Regulatory-Environment

      Christchurch Casino
      In June 2004 SKYCITY acquired a 40.5 per cent interest in Christchurch Casinos Limited, the holder of the casino venue licence for and operator of the Christchurch casino. It increased that interest to 45.9 per cent in August 2008. The other major shareholder is Skyline Enterprises Limited. Christchurch Casino currently has 34 gaming tables and 500 gaming machines. Its casino venue licence runs until 2019.
      Through Christchurch Casino, SKYCITY has an effective 15 per cent interest in Dunedin Casino Limited, the holder of the casino venue licence in Dunedin which runs until 2024. The casino is operated by a subsidiary of Dunedin Casino Limited.

      Queenstown
      SKYCITY Entertainment Group is a joint venture partner with Skyline Enterprises Limited (SKYCITY 60 per cent, Skyline 40 per cent) in Queenstown Casinos Limited (QCL) the holder of one of two casino venue licences in Queenstown. SKYCITY Queenstown Casino opened in December 2000, and the casino venue licence runs until December 2025.

      SKYCITY Casino Management Limited is the operator of the casino, which currently has 12 gaming tables and 86 gaming machines.

      Wikipedia entry:
      The Dunedin Casino opened in 1999 in the city of Dunedin in New Zealand. It is located in The Exchange, 0.5 kilometres (0.31 mi) south of the city centre, in the Southern Cross Hotel building.
      The Gambling Commission suspended the casino’s license for two days in 2006, after it was found to have let a woman gamble $6.6 million over a three-year period.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10410599

      http://www.gamblingcommission.govt.nz/GCwebsite.nsf/Files/GamblingCommissionDecision/$file/GamblingCommissionDecision.pdf

  32. That puff piece you posted early is a cracker Elizabeth.
    I loved…..”The benefits to the city’s construction industry of a development that will cost $100 million to build are impossible to ignore. This is the initial boost – an extra 100 new permanent jobs in Dunedin’s economy, and all the associated needs for services, will be a long-lasting benefit to the city worth millions.”

    Going by the very recent past this is in fact a straight out lie.

  33. Hype O'Thermia

    “The University will benefit from umpty-thousand extra enrolments, whose parents had been reluctant to send them to a university in a city without a 5 star hotel. Now that the parents can come and visit their crotchfruit during their years of study this will no longer be a barrier. Extensions to university lecture theatres and other facilities will provide further employment, along with the need to hire extra teaching staff.” See how it goes, spinning like a teetotum!

    • Elizabeth

      That’s one hell of a lot of crotchfruiting to do to win over University Council and Barry Mackay (adjusting the space programme AND strengthening buildings)

      But if it funds the Dental School redevelopment… AND builds the new performing arts centre at Albany Street ~!!! gotcha oyster.

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