“But there’s more to Dunedin than just bloody cruise ships’’

### DScene 17-10-12
Big brother is watching (page 1)
Jeweller Brent Weatherall says Dunedin City Council is being dictatorial and ineffectual when it comes to some aspects of economic development. See p3. #bookmark

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CBD not just for tourists
‘Dictatorial’ council angers city businessman (page 3)
By Wilma McCorkindale
City retailer Brent Weatherall says Dunedin City Council (DCC) is dictatorial rather than consultative on some aspects of its economic development strategy. The George St jeweller said Otago Chamber of Commerce retail committee members were ‘‘hot under the collar’’ after a recent meeting with Cr Kate Wilson over proposed city council changes, such as banning footpath signs. “I think [the DCC] is being quite dictatorial in what they’re trying to push through council in regards to the economic development strategy.” Weatherall said during forming of the strategy the Chamber retail committee was approached in consultation and made a submission on changes to the council’s commercial use of footpaths policy, aired at a hearings subcommittee in May. The council’s response? A talk from subcommittee member Cr Kate Wilson on the virtues of introducing the ban because DCC saw them as a hazard. It left the Chamber retail committee “all up in arms”, Weatherall said. “Everyone that was there said ‘for God’s sake – we opposed this.’ I feel that our suggestions at times fall on very deaf ears in Dunedin. It’s a real shame.”
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Posted by Elizabeth Kerr


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24 responses to ““But there’s more to Dunedin than just bloody cruise ships’’

  1. Peter

    This footpath policy seems to be all part of the current mania for ‘safety’ we come across so much, where the powers that be bend over backwards-and stupidly- to ‘protect’ us. It all gets to the point where it is just plain ridiculous.Let’s not have sterile streets where the life blood of the city is sucked out. Dunedin’s streets are very rarely jam- packed as it is. Think London, Paris, Rome, Beijing, Mumbai for perspective.
    Cr Kate Wilson has created needless aggravation on this one.

  2. Anonymous

    Footpath signs and painted slogans: a central plank of Dunedin’s Economic Development Strategy.

    Speaking of planks, the best thing for economic development in Dunedin would be if several current Councillors walked off the end of one.

    • Elizabeth

      I can’t believe the City has become this facile – rorts the ratepayers, then bends them over sandwich signs.

      What next :( – whippings by Cafe Kate, of Middlemarch ?

      • Elizabeth

        What does it take for ODT to share the online love?

        The/our daily will not routinely upload opinion pieces by local writers. The editors do so only haphazardly; thereby ensuring good customer service is fully absent.
        I don’t care when the uploads happen – if ODT wants to sell the print edition on the day, that’s fine. Most competing newspapers upload late the same day or in the week following the print edition.
        And no, I don’t want a digital subscription. (I buy the print edition from George St retailers, no home delivery is possible)

        So it happens that columnist Jim Sullivan’s writings improve each week; in turn I’m forced to use my OCR scanner to capture his hilarity and condescension in equal part wrt DCC and goings on in the city.
        Today he tackled the dreadful “Dunedin” logo/typeface promoting tourism… with major swipes at committee process. irreligious, palpably close to the mark. The writing shines, gleams.

        I’m heading home to scan it.

        • Elizabeth


          ### ODT Online Mon, 29 Oct 2012
          Opinion – Nothing Too Serious
          City promo: lettering or littering?
          By Jim Sullivan
          Recent publicity has revealed that “Dunedin” done in weirdly shaped lettering reminiscent of the billboards for B-grade horror films is not, as most of us thought, graffiti that will eventually disappear, but is, in fact, an official project designed to “promote” the city.
          “Dunedin” in this ugly Gothic-style lettering is actually being sandblasted on prominent surfaces like the tarmac at Dunedin International Airport and the chest of that well-endowed waitress at the Speight’s Ale House.
          Not surprisingly, the matter was raised at a recent meeting of the Dunedin Image Management (DIM) committee and under the provisions of the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act and the Summary Offences (Tagging and Graffiti Vandalism) Amendment Act 2008 the minutes of the last committee meeting have been made available to this newspaper.
          Apologies were received from artistic adviser Rupert Bracewell (“I’ve got my hands full with my Reclining Nude”) and from Dunedin Action Group (DAG) chairman Reg Listing (“I can’t be bothered, thanks”). The committee acknowledged the receipt of many letters of concern from the public and the chairman tabled a suggested generic response:

          Dear …
          Thank you for your letter. I can’t tell you how we came to be lumbered with the odd lettering you mention as I have no idea. Some committee somewhere, at some time, must have looked at it and signed it off. Perhaps someone in the Drainage and Related Works Department saw it? Nor had this committee realised that it is most commonly associated with the logo for the heavy metal group ACIDC, whose main contribution to posterity has been to give Australia an even worse image than Sir Les Patterson has.
          We didn’t know that this lettering is strongly linked with the posters and signs for many of the most distressing aspects of the Nazi regime. We now understand this style of lettering was gradually abandoned by the Nazis as they conquered parts of Europe where the locals couldn’t understand a letter of it, but Dunedin, as far as any of us know, was never under the Nazi jackboot, so there’s mystery about the “German Gothic” link with our city.
          We are as confused as you are. But we are working on it.
          Yours sincerely, etc

          The committee agreed that the letter was forthright and honest and could set a new direction in transparency for bureaucratic letter writing. A trend to be wary of. Much of the meeting was taken up with discussing alternative fonts for “Dunedin”…

          • Jim Sullivan is a Dunedin writer and broadcaster.

  3. Hype O'Thermia

    One of my “duh – what?” moments came when a blind, well-travelled, Europhile, Kiwi complained about signs and cafe tables on the footpaths in Dunedin, yet rhapsodised about the vibrant streets of Paris…… Italy, Spain, you name it, anywhere but here. Presumably the denizens of these crowded cities – Britain where pet dogs have much more latitude than here, included – include people with all varieties of disability. Are they all in “supported housing” where they don’t get out and mix it in the environment? [sarc]
    As for South Dunedin, the tarting up has meant formula as usual, remove parking,
    Dunedin streets are seldom crowded.
    We who drive WILL NOT embrace perceived self-defined inconvenience in OUR lives to fit in with planners.
    The DCC’s people need to wake up. Retailers could tell them a thing or two. One is the growing tendency for people to go “shopping” – physically browsing, examining goods, trying clothes on then going away to order the same thing cheaper online.
    Higher parking charges encourage a clock-watching dash to do the necessary task, no leisurely amble in and out of the shops on the way back to the parking meter.
    Yesterday’s thinking prevails. Stadium vs affordable TV: better coverage, home comforts, no drink-driving issues afterwards, and overexposure-weariness with professional rugby. “Main Street” retailers as cash cows whose need to be there makes them infinitely milkable.
    So many examples.

  4. Calvin Oaten

    Easy Elizabeth. Cafe Kate, as you term her is probably in Middlemarch mode even in the Town Hall. That’s why she probably discerns Dunedin’s footpaths as eternally congested as compared with outside her cafe. When a flock of sheep rush through, she probably would see a few sign boards as a hazard. It confirms again that they are all mad in that building.

  5. Elizabeth

    New Zealand’s future prosperity is highly dependent on a huge increase in investments and lending to agriculture and the other productive sectors.

    ### nzherald.co.nz 5:30 AM Saturday Oct 27, 2012
    Agriculture debt is an economic winner
    By Brian Gaynor
    OPINION New Zealand has a strange attitude towards debt. We criticise the agriculture sector for having too much debt even though it generates the bulk of the country’s export earnings. Meanwhile individuals are encouraged to take on more and more debt albeit this generates little economic activity and makes residential property less and less affordable for new home buyers.
    This weird situation is highlighted in a recent report by the Ministry of Primary Industries, an amalgam of the old agriculture, forestry, fishing and food safety ministries. It also comes through in a major report by ANZ Bank, “Greener Pastures: The Global Soft Commodity Opportunity for Australia and New Zealand”.

    The scorecard for agriculture and individual debt is as follows:
    *$31.7 billion of additional agriculture debt generated $21.3 billion of extra dairy and meat export receipts over the 10-year period.
    *$102.7 billion of new residential borrowings helped to create $50.7 billion of new housing and apartment consents over the same period.

    The ANZ report concludes: “Over the past few decades, agriculture has sometimes been viewed as a ‘sunset sector’ with declining interest from younger generations. Today, market developments suggest that agriculture is entering a new era with significant commercial opportunities on offer. Both Australia and New Zealand have the potential to boost agriculture exports and returns, and enormous rewards await both countries if they can succeed in harnessing their agriculture industries to the growth of the Asia Pacific region.”

    Over-investing our scarce financial resources in existing residential property, which only pushes up the price of existing homes, is not the way for New Zealand to keep up with the rest of the world.
    Read more

    ● Brian Gaynor is an executive director of Milford Asset Management.

    • Elizabeth

      I’ve reached the end of being excited – or manipulated – by anything that comes out of the DCC as a ‘vision’ pre-programmed for particular results via (the DCC crafted and controlled tick-box of) ‘community consultation’.

      ### ODT Online Sun, 28 Oct 2012
      Planning for Dunedin of the future
      By Debbie Porteous
      Last year, 4000 people had their say on what they wanted Dunedin to be like in 30 years’ time. Now, having produced a 30- to 40-year plan for the city, the city council is working on a more detailed 10-year district plan to lay out the rules for what exactly can be done and built on Dunedin land. When complete, it will replace existing development rules with new ones that aim to achieve the vision of the spatial plan. Debbie Porteous takes a look at what that vision is, and how it is going to be achieved.
      Read more

  6. Hype O'Thermia

    I love this – “what exactly can be done and built on Dunedin land”! ANYTHING, that’s what. Plan be buggered, if it’s a Vision* (a.k.a. hallucination, demonic possession) or “will bring jobs and money to Dunedin” inflated estimates of both, hidden reality being ratepayers’ money transfer to the usual suspects. A few low-grade jobs for locals, nett outflow of money from Dunedin to out of town / o.o.NZ contractors. Same-old.
    *Vision of the spatial plan – that’d mean e.g. large hunk of space on waterfront and reaching much higher than anything else in the vicinity, turned into a fugly accommodation building for all the well-off people who are bedless throughout the year, oh no, it’s about 4 times a year, and given their druthers they wouldn’t be booking into a place where you have to go a long drive to get a short distance to town and you can’t walk straight there either, and there’s one of the chilliest winds in the area waiting to strike you through your clothes when you step out the door.
    Planning, it’s such a great thing. What schemozzle would we end up with if people were allowed to do whatever they thought made sense as long as they paid for it, including compensating others for any adverse effects.

    • Elizabeth

      What a SHEER coincidence that Spatial Plans came in around NZ (like it wasn’t pushed by LGNZ as, cough, voluntary ‘best practice’) and the National-led government decided to free up the RMA to allow developers to sprawl in our towns with new housing. That’s a simply astounding coincidence. And well, Dunedin Spatial Plan falls into that muddy non-Green hole. F*** a duck.

      • Elizabeth

        Spatial Plan means God loves a planner (lower case). But actually, he likes a Developer more.
        Like Syd and his cuzzies. And the Dippies. And anybody small-minded-developerish from Dunedin that absolutely *ducked* Wanaka these last years turning it into crap, who can no longer afford to do that so chose Dunedin’s Taieri and the south coast to fry and carve.
        Spatial Plans are written for the development community, no-one else. The good people of Dunedin won’t be able to duck a F*** – not once the new District Plan makes “property law” of the SP vision. All downhill, with lots of appeals on the Draft District Plan – to give God the bonus, of a well-paid Lawyer or three.
        The development community needs CERTAINTY.
        Forget social justice when greed is the multiplier. Those of you with substandard (unaffordable) housing or without state-of-the-art social housing, don’t need CERTAINTY – DCC says so. Anyway, the pay-off is the stadium, built for you and your enjoyment of it, Peasants. Although, you might have really liked HOME INSULATION.
        So don’t complain.
        We’re living the dream of benign government. Get over yourselves.
        Support the DCC Spatial Plan vision: To speculate on property, not productivity, not export. “We’re going to make you so weak and so destitute you’ll have to believe in God as your only salvation.”
        Dunedin, the new Bible Belt.
        Paint that on the airport runways.

  7. Hype O'Thermia

    I read the usual District Plan mention about high quality land, see my comment above which applies to also ignoring any developer who decides to chop productive life into “lifestyle” blocks, hey, no worries, the DCC will see you right even if there’s a bit or argy-bargy from naysayers and anti-progress types, oops, we mean our highly respected ratepayers. This from
    “Complaints from residents of Hamilton urban sprawl and lifestyle-blockers about the noise and smells of rural economic activities are drawing calls for more tolerance and a fair go for farmers and growers.
    Waikato pig farmers, fruit growers spraying and combating frost with helicopters and turbo fans, dairy farmers using motorbikes before dawn to bring cows in for milking and contractors cutting maize at night, have long been on the receiving end of complaints from townies who move into the country for “peace and quiet”.
    But complaints last week from north Rototuna and Gordonton residents when green tea exporter Zealong called in helicopters at 4am to prevent a rogue frost wiping out its imminent harvest have again highlighted the march of Hamilton’s subdivision development north into productive farmland……..”

  8. Peter

    On TV1 News last night there was an item on the government making it easier to build cheaper homes. Part of the plan, among other things, is to open up cheaper land on the periphery of cities. The Mayor of Porirua also expressed concern that the way could be left open,with less strict building requirements,for a new leaky home type scenario.
    I’ve always wondered how much our council is looking at rezoning old and redundant industrial and retail zones for residential as a way to free up more land without further urban sprawl. For example, there are a string of old shops along Prince Albert Road that are underutilised. It would seem to me there is more sense in concentrating this kind of thing further down towards South Dunedin. This could help revitalise those shops.
    Talking about urban sprawl, I wonder what the latest is with that proposed new residential area in Outram. Any talk of containing urban sprawl here would see this as being a kind of test case, wouldn’t it?

  9. ### ODT Online Thu, 18 Apr 2013
    Cruise ship plans enhanced for growth
    By John Lewis
    Despite a drop in the number of cruise ships expected to visit Dunedin in the 2013-14 season, local tourist operators have been told to expect a 6.2% rise in passenger numbers.
    Dunedin City Council business development adviser Sophie Barker said 151,000 passengers arrived on 85 cruise ship visits in the 2012-13 season. She predicted 161,000 passengers would arrive on 80 cruise ships in the 2013-14 season. She made the comments during a debriefing for the cruise ship industry, at the Dunedin Public Library yesterday, aimed at improving the systems and procedures dealing with visitors and tourist operations. About 100 people attended.
    Read more

  10. ### ODT Online Fri, 10 Jan 2014
    Tour bribery, bias claims denied
    By Rosie Manins
    Further unrest among Dunedin tour operators about new cruise ship protocols, including claims of bribery and bias, will be addressed at a season-end debriefing. Operators have been banned by Port Otago from entering the wharf area to sell products to passengers and crew, in a move consistent with all other New Zealand ports.
    Read more

  11. ### dunedintv.co.nz April 8, 2014 – 6:07pm
    Debrief held to discuss issues from the cruise ship season
    With seven of the scheduled 85 cruise sips cancelled this season due to weather, the impact on the Dunedin economy has been significant. Fewer passengers and crew visiting the city has meant less money being spent and tour operators and visitor attractions left out of pocket. A debrief was held today to discuss the issues, and many were disappointed with a loss of income.

  12. ### ODT Online Fri, 18 Apr 2014
    Tour operators pointed to advice
    Tourism operators have been urged to use a new service in the wake of claims some have missed out on a significant chunk of cruise-ship income. Dunedin Host and the Dunedin City Council’s economic development unit are offering local tour operators advice on how to use online marketing to capture a wider section of the cruise-ship passenger market.
    Read more

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