DCC ‘vision’ (spatial plan chess)

Read: Mayor and Councillors “trumped” by the contrivances of staff bureaucrats and their greedy developer friends. They call it public consultation. Or open chequebook.

Mayor Dave Cull described the plan as presenting the vision for the future city and the district plan as setting out the rules for development.

### ODT Online Tue, 18 Sep 2012
Spatial plan passes
By Debbie Porteous
A long-term vision for the development of Dunedin was adopted by the Dunedin City Council yesterday with a warning from councillors to developers. The Dunedin Towards 2050 – A Spatial Plan document provides the council with direction on managing future growth and development in Dunedin by specifying the nature and location of development in the city in years to come. It has no regulatory force, but carries some weight in resource consent and district plan change decisions and will guide the current review of the district plan, which is not expected to be operative until 2015.
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Cr Colin Weatherall is on the SERIOUS button, he knows there’s trouble ahead:

“During discussion on the plan Cr Colin Weatherall, the chairman of the council’s hearings committee, issued a note of caution about using the plan as a justification in resource consent applications, because the district plan still takes legal precedence.”

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr


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50 responses to “DCC ‘vision’ (spatial plan chess)

  1. anonymous

    Call me surprised if the city property manager still has a job by xmas

    • Elizabeth

      There may be a specific thing that is the cause, however, a list of elbowings/shoves also emerges in the last 6 months to make it interesting.

      • Elizabeth

        Bill English, for the National-led government, in reference to the Auckland residential property market, is saying the RMA needs to be changed to allow more housing development. Oh wow. This will be embraced by DCC’s Syd Brown and his honchos wanting to carve up Outram and the flood plain at Taieri.

        ### radionz.co.nz Updated at 6:27 am today
        Radio New Zealand News
        Govt to change RMA to free up residential land
        The Government intends to change the Resource Management Act to make more residential land available in an effort to curb rising house prices. But Opposition parties say that on its own will not make houses more affordable – particularly in Auckland. Rising house prices in Auckland have renewed fears that New Zealand’s largest city might be in the middle of a property boom. Finance Minister Bill English admits it’s a worry, and says the Government will respond to the Productivity Commission report on affordable housing in late October. “We’re working right now on what we can do about housing affordability because we don’t want to see a market take off if it’s just a product of not having enough new land or denser housing to meet the demand.” The Government’s response will include making changes to the Resource Management Act and local government legislation to free up land for development. But the Labour Party’s housing spokesperson, Annette King, says Auckland mayor Len Brown has told her there has already enough land available in the city to build 18,000 new homes now.


        ### radionz.co.nz Wednesday 19 September 2012
        Morning Report with Geoff Robinson & Simon Mercep

        07:50 Govt intends changing RMA to curb rising house prices
        The Government intends changing the Resource Management Act to make more residential land available in an effort to curb rising house prices. (3′36″)
        Audio | Download: Ogg Vorbis MP3 | Embed

        • Elizabeth

          ### stuff.co.nz Last updated 05:00 07/10/2012
          Sunday Star-Times
          Govt plan means cheaper housing
          The Government is close to announcing policies that will free up city-fringe and more central ”brownfields” sites for residential development in an effort to cut the cost of housing. While the Kiwi dream remains a picturesque weatherboard house with a garden for the kids, prices are so high in many cities, notably Auckland, that that dream comes with a very large mortgage or is simply beyond the reach of many.
          No details are yet available, but the plans are believed to include zoning policy changes that will free more land reversing a multi-decade decline in building activity, which has worsened significantly since the global financial crisis hit.
          Read more

  2. Hype O'Thermia

    That word “vision” elicits a conditioned reflex in me. It signals the need for extra alertness, constant watchfulness to observe when the rort tiptoes in disguised as a harmless wee kittycat.

  3. Hype O'Thermia

    (Part 1) Floodplain? I see no floods.
    (Part 2) Council finalises watercourse deepening and dyke-building plan to protect vulnerable houses from flooding.

  4. Anonymous

    When push comes to shove…
    1. Queens Gardens stuffup
    2. Athenaeum stuffup
    3. Anzac Ave stuffup (Where else in the country can you find one property that appreciates in value at $100K/month)

    Er, that’s it. See ya.

  5. Elizabeth

    Dunedin’s spatial plan and the proposal to put a ring around the city is just a futile attempt at social engineering, writes Peter Dymock

    ### ODT Online Fri, 16 Nov 2012
    DCC spatial plan means dearer land
    By Peter Dymock
    It is good to see the Government taking heed of the Productivity Commission’s call to free up more land on city fringes for home-building (ODT, 29.10.12) to help reduce the cost of housing. What then is the Dunedin City Council up to with its proposals in its spatial plan (ODT, 27.10.12) to put an end to greenfield and rural-residential development and put a ring around the city preventing further expansion? There is nothing surer than this will simply drive up the price of land and housing.

    The reality is the spatial plan is not what the citizens of Dunedin really want, as claimed by Mayor Dave Cull. Like all such plans it actually reflects the policy framework it was presented in and the views of those few people who bothered to make a submission…

    Read more

    – Peter Dymock lives in Alexandra.

  6. Hype O'Thermia

    I think at some point “I want” has to come up against “You can’t always get what you want” :
    “Not everybody wants to live in inner city apartments or intensive infill and multi-unit developments or to use public transport as promoted in the spatial plan . In fact, given a choice, the majority of Kiwis still prefer to live in a traditional stand-alone residential dwelling and many dream of a rural lifestyle on a small block.”
    If all the people who dream of a rural lifestyle on a small block were to be able to realise that dream at a price they can afford there would be precious little productive land left, and the air would be filled with the whines of Lifestylers with the emphasis on style, complaining about rural sounds, sights and smells.

  7. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Fri, 30 Nov 2012
    Wise land use is good global citizenship

    Craig Werner, of Macandrew Bay, maintains the Dunedin City Council’s spatial plan is good for city progress.

    Peter Dymock (16.11.12) complains about the “futility” of the Dunedin City Council’s spatial plan, which I think will be a very good foundation for city progress. Mr Dymock correctly points out the National Government’s Productivity Commission wants to sidestep protections and free up more land to be sold on city fringes. This is because land affordability and land cost as a percentage of the total house price is high in the large cities.

    However, it is not true here, and we are not Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch. With the exception of these places, all of urban New Zealand lives quite well with our distinct urban-rural boundaries. You encounter them every time you’re driving past paddocks towards a town at 100kmh, and suddenly it’s a 50kmh speed-limit sign, and the suburban houses compacted side by side pop into view. This does not evidently result in a severe land-price impact for most of New Zealand nationwide, and I doubt that Dunedin has had house-price increases due to supply constraints, because population growth is low.

    The spatial plan policies support new “granny flats”, mixed-use commercial/residential and multiple dwellings replacing some single houses, for instance, and these will be an incremental whole new source of available housing throughout Dunedin’s future.
    Read more

    • ### ODT Online Sun, 19 May 2013
      Out or up? City plans its boundaries
      By Debbie Porteous
      Auckland’s housing problems are topical, not least because housing became a prominent issue in the Budget as a result. Much further south, Dunedin faces its own housing issues and the city council has a plan to deal with them- restricting development to within the city’s urban limits and stopping more subdivision at its rural fringes to keep the city affordable to live in. But some people do not think this is the best way to go about it.

      The Dunedin City Council has a plan for Dunedin’s housing stock.

      It says the affordability of home ownership in Dunedin will creep up if the city continues to sprawl, increasing not only personal transport costs as homes become further away from the city centre, but making the whole city more expensive to maintain and service to the same level as a more compact city. The council also says there will not be the range of homes available around the city to cater for what is becoming an older and less well-off population. It has a plan is to put limits on development to address those issues.
      But developers say further restrictions, aside from the current costs and regulatory requirements, on development on the rural fringes of the city will eventually reduce the overall prosperity of the city, because the ”right sort of people” will not be able to find housing that suits them.

      Should Dunedin expand out, or up? At the highest, strategic direction level, the council has already more or less decided. The city, according to the council’s spatial plan, should expand up.
      Read more

  8. Hype O'Thermia

    “[A]ffordability of home ownership in Dunedin will creep up if the city continues to sprawl, increasing not only personal transport costs as homes become further away from the city centre, but making the whole city more expensive to maintain and service to the same level as a more compact city.” So what’s this about housing subdivisions on the outskirts? Why even have discussions, appeals? How about “District plan, bro. Read this and piss off, we’ve got coffee to drink”?

  9. What an expensive load of hot air! The politicians, both national and local either are too dumb to understand or just simply don’t want to. The reason why houses are so expensive is nothing to do with land availability, or population pressure. Supply and demand has been implicitly disjointed over the last couple of decades by the financial industry perverting the market. It has enticed people into the belief that they are entitled to have their own home by offering money at unrealistically low rates and LVRs (loan to value ratios).

    The result is that money has flooded into the market creating a false demand, prices escalate, and the people start to believe in the myth that property only ever increases in value so borrow and be damned. The real estate ‘spruikers’ together with the ‘banksters’ foster this theme for all they are worth, in the meantime ‘ripping off’ huge commissions and fees.

    The whole thing is a scam designed to convince the people they are getting to own their own home. What they are really doing is signing up to a contract designed to transfer all or most of their hard earned tax paid income from their pockets into the ‘banksters’ and RE agents and lawyers. They never can hope to own their properties.

    The most likely scenario is that when the “bubble” bursts properties will revert to their ‘mean’, the poor unfortunates will see their investment shattered. Some will manage to hang on whilst many will face mortgagee sales and all lost. All gone to the ‘banksters’ whose whole philosophy is based on “heads we win, tails you lose.”

    The governments of the day could, and should reinstate credit controls, limit LVRs to no more than 80% of valuation, meaning that purchasers would have to have a minimum 20% deposit before qualifying for mortgage finance. That would immediately rule out the those with insufficient equity. The supposed house shortage would suddenly disappear.

    A surplus would present a buyers market (for those eligible) and prices would drop hugely and quickly. There would be the pain and anguish, but there always is when the market adjusts to where it belongs.

    After the pain there would be more fairness all round. Who knows, we might even see the day when ordinary working folk could aspire to freeholding their own home before retirement, earn enough for Mum to stay home and look after the kids who would even be able to go to school with a breakfast inside them, and Mum would be there when they come home. How good would that be?

    Meantime, the Minister of Housing Nick Smith rabbits on about building “affordable homes” in Auckland for people to buy at $300,000! What!!!?

    Do the numbers. Income $40,000 (if they are lucky), interest 5% = $7,500, capital repaid over 30 years $10,000 total $17,500. Income $40,000, tax 25% (on a good day) net $30,000. Cost of shelter $17,500, balance $12,500. Food clothing three kids, school costs, owning and running car (obligatory these days) GST, electricity etc. Repairs, rates , maintenance on property. All out of $12,500! Forget about it.

    Does this government (or any government) really care? Not so you’d notice. They are all one way or another connected to the “banksters” who would never countenance the interference of their grabbing of wealth.

    Just look at the latest ‘rort’ of selling our asset Mighty River Power back to those of us who could afford and are naive enough to buy it. Look at the fact that $120 million odd disappeared into the broker’s hands for facilitating the transaction.

    One could almost be excused for thinking that there is a grand plan to destroy the lower and middle classes by robbing them of their wealth thus making them for ever more dependent upon the “elite”.

    A capitalist by nature, I am now aware that it is the best way for equality, BUT! it is also dependent on honest people operating the levers. That, unfortunately is not what goes down today and hasn’t for a very long time.

  10. Hype O'Thermia

    There is something odd about the emphasis on people “needing” to buy their own homes. Sure, they get security that they won’t have to move (if they can keep paying the mortgage) but they have no guarantee that the cost won’t go up, just like rents go up. Essentially they are renting money to live in a house, instead of renting the house. The interest, rates and insurance go up, instead of the landlord putting the rent up. As a home-owner I understand the desire to own my own house standing on my own piece of land, but if I were making the decision today with today’s prices – well, for one thing I would look at the option of finding work and a house somewhere my work would pay enough so I could afford the house. Lower-paid job? Part-time instead of fulltime with overtime plus a part-time job? It wouldn’t work for everyone, not for those with a challenging interesting genuine career with genuine prospects, but for the average Joe with a bit of adaptability the choice to live somewhere they could afford a house and a life looks like a no-brainer to me.

  11. Judy

    The present district plan has all the protection that is needed to stop urban sprawl, but the hearings committees have decided to give that the two fingered salute, in favor of their cronies. What is needed are fully independent hearings commissioners who make decisions based on the district plan and not on cronyism.

    • As long as Brown, Noone, Weatherall, Hudson, Wilson, and the likes of Allan Cubitt and David Benson-Pope haunt the hearings committees as commissioners, then your (colleague scratch back) rights to subdivide and drive the District Plan into the pond are assured. Cull and Co at Grater-Dunedin don’t keep their hands clean. All the (justification) work goes to the bloated firms of Anderson Lloyd and Galloway Cook Allan.

  12. Peter Dymock

    I suggest all the above commentators who so are opposed to new greenfields subdivisions and lifestyle blocks read the DCC’s very own Research Report 2007/1 – Dunedin City Housing Choice . To quote : “overwhelming preference for stand alone dwellings” , “housing preferences remain relatively stable despite demographic change” , “the prevailing preference for stand alone dwellings cannot be over stated” .

    Who are you guys to dictate what sort of housing people want and should have ?

    If there is a demand for a range of housing styles, and it can be met at a reasonable profit for developers and at a price the market can afford , then believe me , the market will provide for it.

    I support the DCC’s plans for enabling greater density in existing residential zones and in fact recommend the Central Otago District Council’s approach whereby the permitted dwelling density is 1 per 250m2 of land area right across all of the District’s residential areas. The housing market in Central Otago is such that there is no demand whatever for such density , but it does give the market the flexibilty to provide should such a market ever eventuate.

    However that does not mean that greenfields subdivisions should be restricted. There are still many people who desire a brand new, warm, sunny, modern home in a new development. I suggest you guys look at the marketing put out by the group builders – they know a lot better than you guys what people who build new homes really aspire to and it is invariably large stand alone homes (at least 240m2 floor area and 4 bedrooms, one ensuite, media room/second living area , study/office and attached walk- in 2 car garage )

    If people want and can afford this (and we are talking ordinary middle class people here, not the rich) , then the DCC and its coterie of academic planners has no right to try and curtail this form of development.

    Peter Dymock

  13. Peter Dymock

    Elizabeth – since when is providing sections and new homes/apartments/town houses for people to live, not to mention commercial and industrial sites and buildings for people to work in and businesses to start up in or subdividing rural land for more intensive export oriented land use, “property speculation” and how doesn’t it “contribute to our added value export economy” ?

    Developers perform a vital social and economic function in our society and in doing so take huge risks which most of you people in comfortable academic jobs couldn’t sleep at night with – and if you think being a “greedy developer” is a road to easy riches , then you have no idea of the reality!

    The costs of development , initial land purchase , financing costs, holding costs , paying rates on unsold sections/houses/commercial premises, Council development contributions , the cost of sales, cost of marketing, battling Council bureaucrats and paying taxes , means that there is precious little “profit” after the development is finally sold down after years of no cash income.

    Particularly in places like Dunedin, where the returns in relation to the risk are marginal , being a developer is almost a charity .

    Peter Dymock

  14. Peter Dymock


    What’s NZ’s balance of payments got to do with housing choice and/or greenfields development ?


    • You could be an exporter, I guess. No?

      What is wealth transfer.
      Wealth transfers to the wealthier in our economy… investment favours the wealthy in building wealth, the middle class shrinks, and the lower economic class cannot hang on to the ability to make a living.
      What is property speculation (housing).

  15. Anonymous

    Land-banking sections, holding on to sections to build up capital value, purchasing property in areas where you know that Council is planning projects etc is the sort of useless speculation that is being referred to here. Using inside connections to gain an advantage for services or resource consent is even worse.

  16. Peter Dymock


    Property speculation is everyday ordinary middle class “mums & dads” buying existing homes as rental properties for capital gain alone and pricing out first home buyers in the process. I agree that just bidding up the price of existing housing stock contributes nothing to the economy.

    The fact that this existing housing stock in Dunedin is old, rotten, mouldy, cold, poorly insulated, not oriented to the sun, often located in depressing dank gullies with badly designed room layouts not designed for modern living is another story

    Your so-called “greedy developers” on the other hand grow the economy by constructing new housing stock and commercial and industrial buildings – buildings that are well designed, warm, sunny, well insulated and pleasant to live and work in.

    Developers need to be celebrated and encouraged – not decried.


  17. Peter Dymock


    You have obviously no idea of the dynamics and economics of land development.

    Developers don’t land bank sections by choice – quite the opposite. They hold them because they can’t sell them! There is no way that the capital gain on an unsold bare section can possibly compensate for the holding costs, on going financing costs, rates, development contributions and opportunity cost of capital. This is particularly so in Dunedin,where what little appreciation there is on a section doesn’t even cover inflation.

    Maybe it might happen in Auckland, but I can assure you not in Dunedin and Otago.

    It is in every developers interest to sell sections as soon as they are produced and they are under considerable financial pressure to do so. In fact, even better, is to pre-sell sections before they are produced – ie “off the plan”. Right now, unless there is a level of pre-sales, it is virtually impossible to get development finance.

    As for your conspiracy theories about “inside connections” – this is just absolute rubbish and out right wrong.

    Peter Dymock

  18. Hype O'Thermia

    Peter Dymock, “Developers don’t land bank sections by choice – quite the opposite.” True, except when the land is cheap, possibly not approved “yet” but developer has full confidence that conditions will change, rules will change or be swerved / altered / bent in his favour: it’s a small city with some very cosy relationships in convenient places.

      The National-led government helps the old boy developers stack their gold bars.

      ### ODT Online Sat, 10 Aug 2013
      Govt announces RMA changes
      Prime Minister John Key has announced changes to the Resource Management Act which he says will improve housing affordability. The law changes will require local councils to provide a minimum of 10 years of urban land supply to cope with projected population growth. It will also allow subdivisions to be non-notified unless they are clearly not the type of developments anticipated by the relevant plan and zoning. Another change would limit the time for processing simple consent applications such as adding a deck or verandah from 20 working days to 10 working days. Another would allow councils to waive resource consents where there was an insignificant or technical variance from planning rules proposed – such as a retaining wall being slightly over the permitted height.
      Read more

      John Key PM Lei [3news.co.nz] re-imaged[3news.co.nz – John Key PM, re-imaged by Whatifdunedin]

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      • ### ODT Online Thu, 22 Aug 2013
        Editorial: Bursting the housing bubble
        It was no surprise when Reserve Bank governor Graeme Wheeler this week introduced mortgage lending restrictions as a way of cooling what many see as an over-heated housing market. However, the loan-to-value (LVR) restrictions on new lending are more aggressive than many expected.

        From October 1, banks will be required to restrict new residential mortgage lending at LVRs of more than 80% to no more than 10% of the dollar value of their new housing lending.

        Market talk was around figures of 12.5% to 15%, so 10% is much tighter than expected. Putting this into context, recent lending in the high LVR category appears to have been above 30% recently. The action by Mr Wheeler represents a significant tightening in the supply of credit for the housing market. The Bankers Association is warning people they may be declined for loans, something which may cynically be seen as a method to drive people into banks now, rather than waiting until October 1. But signs are already there of retail banks reducing the amount of lending they do to first-home buyers with less than 20% equity.
        Whatever happens now, first-home buyers outside the new lending rules, and small-business owners hoping to expand, will need new ways of accessing finance. Already, there are suggestions of lenders finding ways around it. Family help is always an option, but not for everyone.
        Read more

      • A little alert for those wanting to carve up the Taieri flood plain some more (why you build another supermarket or two at Mosgiel, and create a ‘destination hub’ without notified consents (PLURAL) in the rural zone and without legal water connection! …..) and coastal (rural) land south and north of Dunedin.

        ### ODT Online Tue, 27 Aug 2013
        Residents oppose ‘sea of houses’
        By Lucy Ibbotson
        Wanaka residents living near the proposed 1600-lot Northlake subdivision are rallying against the development. Private Plan Change 45: Northlake Zone, proposes rezoning 223ha of land north of Aubrey Rd from rural general and rural residential to a special zone, enabling a range of residential lot sizes with an average density of seven houses per hectare – a capacity of about 1600 dwellings. The plan change was publicly notified at the start of this month. The submission period closes on Friday.
        Neil Webster, who owns a property in Anderson Rd, has helped co-ordinate resident meetings encouraging submissions against the plan change and said many property owners in the area held grave concerns about its impact on traffic and noise levels, and the loss of amenity values.
        ”It’s going to be a sea of houses; it’s just going to be horrible,” Mr Webster said. ”[PC45] changes it into a whole urban sprawl.” The plan change was a ”landmark decision” for Wanaka, yet many property-owners, particularly those based out of town, had ”not a clue” what it entailed. If the maximum possible development occurred, the housing would cater to almost double the existing permanent population of Wanaka, Mr Webster said.
        Read more

        • Nice one, Mayor Dave! (a story from your patch) – aided and abetted by our Mr Worthington keeping things under the radar on your ‘progressive economic development’ behalf, doh.

          ### ODT Online Wed, 4 Sep 2013
          Information issue
          The Dunedin City Council has committed to keeping the Otago Peninsula Community Board better informed after the board expressed concern it was not told about a consent application. Board chairman John Bellamy said it raised the issue after not being told by the council about a subdivision development.
          ODT Link

  19. Anonymous

    National and its puppet John Key are really embracing the ideology of managing the masses. He’s turned into a nasty wee bugger and has embraced the position to solidify power and wealth at every opportunity. Just look at the personalities and actions of his Ministers for certainty on what type of Leader he is. An easily manipulated dictator for sure, but still happy enough to smile while pulling the trigger on your livelihood. This government genuinely believes there should be a large gap between them and us. The idea of there being wealth and well being in the lowly classes must be quite repulsive to John’s mates.

  20. Anon; John Key is no ‘puppet’ he is ‘El Capo’ the ‘enforcer’, probably the ‘Godfather’ although he goes to great pains to conceal that fact.

    • Calvin, though you’d like this one of Jonkey in his multi-referential cowboy hat.
      Code: Under the brim, a stripe for every subsidy made to big business.

      John Key PM [tvnz.co.nz] re-imaged[tvnz.co.nz – John Key PM, re-imaged by Whatifdunedin]

  21. Anonymous

    Peter, I have around 1000 pages of documentation on a very definite “inside connection” with relation to SH88 that will see the light of day very shortly.
    Let me ask you as a developer, would it be normal for a developer to sell a section to another party and for the other party to sell that section back to the original developer the next day for $1? Is that normal practice?

  22. Looks more like the rings around Saturn to me. He’s not a bit like Marlon Brando is he?

  23. Anon; Question, how much did the ‘developer’ who purchased back a section from the person to whom he sold it for a $1 sell it to the party who sold it back to him? If you can get my drift.

  24. Brian Miller

    How stupid is the DCC district plan. When a man can be taken to court (ODT 9.10.14) and fined $60k for creating jobs by planting trees on useless ground on the Maungatuas, that is only suitable for trees. Yet this city council purposely destroys, and eliminates much of the highclass soils forever. For a few greedy developers, for their financial gain. These highly productive soils provided both wealth and long term work opportunities in the area.
    One can only wonder at the mentality of our city council that would prosecute someone, who through tree planting is creating employment, and yet this same council can act like thugs and destroy an industry that has, and can employ so many, by taking away the protection of the productive soils, that are so essential to the horticulture industries’ survival.

  25. Brian Miller

    My point is, that this council can put the boot in to someone who has not complied with the district plan, but when it suits them to look after their cronies, they go through the guise of a hearing to change the rules. The question that arises from this: What is the point of a district plan, when the thugs can manipulate it to suit themselves, and then prosecute someone who is not in the inner circle?

  26. Anonymous

    Since Mosgiel is the fastest-growing area of Dunedin (indeed, the only area that CAN grow rapidly), the loss of productive soils will only increase.

    • Elizabeth

      The sprawl at Mosgiel is mainly down to migration from the city centre, as the DCC mapping exercises for the Spatial Plan easily show. So this isn’t ‘growth’, it’s displacement. You’re right about further loss of the high-class soils.

      Stories at ODT 8.10.14
      Mosgiel sees building boom
      Going up: builders busy
      If you can’t find it, then just build it

      There is a structural component (market gearing) to why the sites for new McMansions aren’t selling, despite the gaudy show homes. The local market is in parts disabled. Someone else may care to comment on this.

  27. ‘The local market is in part disabled.’ No it’s not! It has simply run out of demand. It’s all in the ‘demographics.’ Dunedin’s indigenous population (excluding visiting student population) hasn’t effectively grown in fifty years. It has shown consistently in the regular census reports. But our ‘city planners’ (God bless them) have constantly denied the reality and pushed ‘growth’ at any cost. It is now finally coming home, debt and all.

    • Elizabeth

      I’m referring to local demand without finance….to get into a McMansion. Thus “The local market is in parts disabled.”

  28. Whippet

    The Boom in Mosgiel is an illusion. Many of the new permits are for speculators. Have a look at the adverts for Highland Park. Six different companies advertising show homes, all looking for buyers.
    Those with an interest in buying have a big problem. They have to sell their own before they can move, and the next tier down of buyers cannot raise the loan, as the Reserve Bank has made it too hard for them. Therefore we have a log jam. Willing seller, but a willing buyer with not enough funds.

  29. Jacob

    A boom. More like a fizzer. Just like the pool. Build and they will come.

    • Elizabeth

      A parallel for Mosgiel’s proposed Rugby/Athletic Pool (via DCC PPP), I see Northlake (Michaela Ward Meehan and her husband, Chris Meehan) want to raise the ‘community’ pool at Wanaka…

      ### ODT Online Fri, 10 Oct 2014
      Pool offer by Northlake
      By Mark Price
      The developers of the huge Northlake subdivision planned for a site northeast of Wanaka are making a concerted bid to host the town’s proposed multimillion-dollar community swimming pool. The idea of siting the pool among the proposed 1700 sections at Northlake came late, behind building it at the Three Parks subdivision or on the existing pool site next to Mt Aspiring College, in Plantation Rd. […] the Northlake developers are offering the council a 50-year lease arrangement.
      Read more

      █ It’s always worth running a search on *northlake* at ODT Online.

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