DCC Water and Waste Services

Mr Mackie said maintaining the required level of expertise in-house would have been unaffordable.

### ODT Online Fri, 30 Dec 2011
DCC racks up $4m consultants’ bill
By Chris Morris
The Dunedin City Council has accumulated a $4 million bill for consultants working on the Three Waters strategy, but council water and waste services manager John Mackie says it is money well spent. Mr Mackie told the Otago Daily Times the bulk of the $4 million spending between 2008 and June 30 this year had gone to four companies – Opus, URS, Beca and United Kingdom-based Wallingford Software.
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5 responses to “DCC Water and Waste Services

  1. Anonymous

    Meanwhile, $4m IS affordable…

  2. Hype O'Thermia

    I’ve nothing against employing specialists where specialist work is needed. What concerns me is that without a City Engineer, is there anyone who hires them, accepts their reports and recommendations, who has much of a clue what the problem/job is and whether the consultants’ reports & plans are the best solution. Or the best value for money. Your average desk jockey with an MBA knows squat about …. well, look at Calvin Oaten’s analysis of the reasons the access to St Clair beach failed – someone who has in-depth engineering education + experience could have said “Where does the wave energy go, in this plan you’ve drawn up?” What we appear to have is people who can compare prices for getting the experts in and declare they are good value, without understanding the matters on which expertise has been expensively lavished and solutions devised. Nobody seems competent to evaluate on the ratepayers’ behalf whether they are necessarily the best for the customer, for all that they may be stylish and use techniques provided by a preferred contractor, materials from a preferred supplier.

    • Elizabeth

      Mr Mackie is our WATER man. Councillors didn’t understand the stadium maths. Councillors won’t understand the WATER maths, it’s a given. How many times do we want to get….

  3. Hype O'Thermia

    It’s not just the problem that councillors don’t understand. The maths are dependent on what gets chosen, and what gets chosen depends on the maths. And the spin, and the glossy presentation, and whether those who want to push it have already got someone influential on-side. (See Calvin Oaten December 30, 2011 at 11:31 pm https://dunedinstadium.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/st-clair-sea-wall-and-beach-access/#comment-20665) The dangerous part is that there is nobody on “our side” i.e. looking out for the wellbeing of the city as a whole, between councillors and consultants to evaluate, interpret, explain. The City Engineer used to have a multitude of projects to budget resources for so had motivation to be canny about commitment to any single gold-plated project. It’s like, if they need a new floor covering in a staff toilet they can put down vinyl or take consultants’ advice to glue down $100 notes and paint 15 coats of polyurethane over them. I would expect the city engineer to point out that the vinyl would be just fine, being clean, easy-care and hygienic at a fraction of the cost. People who don’t understand the requirements, only the maths, will be rapt at the cost-saving modification: use $50 instead of $100 notes. Am I kidding? No. “Only the details have been changed to protect the competence-impaired.”

  4. “These are dynamic models now that we’ll own forever, and will form the basis of any future decision-making.”

    Is this the same life-long asset we’re getting shot of if they have their way?

    $4mil over that time frame buys a lot of suits. But they got a new model out of it so she’ll be right, right?
    I haven’t met to many consults that actually know jack (some, but not many), but since this is council they’ll be able to tell the good from the bad ’cause they really are that good! Aren’t they?????????
    But they are still trying to sell the asset…..

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