Has DCC Planning lost the plot AGAIN?

### ODT Online Wed, 13 Jul 2011
Call to reject retail development
By Chris Morris
Plans for a multimillion-dollar Green Island retail development should be rejected to help protect Dunedin’s main street experience from a “death by a thousand cuts”, a Dunedin City Council planner says. Irmo Properties Ltd has applied for resource consent to refurbish the rundown Iron Roller Mills Building on Irmo St, Green Island, turning it into a new 4900sq m retail complex with 187 car parks.
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Comment by Barch67 at ODT Online:
If the developer were to re-name it “The Rugby World Cup Retail Development”, it’d be consented by now.

Posted by Elizabeth Kerr


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82 responses to “Has DCC Planning lost the plot AGAIN?

  1. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Wed, 20 Jul 2011
    Opposition to Green Island retail complex
    By Chris Morris
    Dunedin City Council’s hearings committee will decide by early next month whether to grant resource consent for a new retail complex inside an old industrial building in Green Island. A two-day hearing at the Lighthouse Church, in Green Island, ended yesterday with applicant Irmo Properties Ltd running into opposition from the Greater Green Island Business Association.
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    ### ODT Online Wed, 16 Mar 2011
    Chch quake delays plans for roller mill
    By Chris Morris
    Plans for a multimillion-dollar retail development in Green Island are proceeding, despite delays triggered by the Christchurch earthquake, the man behind the project says. The proposed retail complex – which has already generated some community opposition – would mean restoration of the run-down iron roller mill building in Irmo St, creating a 5000sq m mixed retail space.
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    • Elizabeth

      ### ODT Online Wed, 17 Aug 2011
      Green Island retail bid rejected
      By Chris Morris
      Plans for a new Green Island retail complex have been rejected by the Dunedin City Council because of “somewhat overstated” claims and fears Dunedin’s other retail zones could be undermined. Irmo Properties Ltd was seeking resource consent to refurbish the run-down iron roller mill building in Irmo St, Green Island, turning it into a 4900sq m retail complex with 187 car parks. However, a written decision from the council’s hearings committee, dated August 10, has declined consent for the project.
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      • Elizabeth

        ### ODT Online Sun, 21 Aug 2011
        Green Island retail backers mull appeal
        By Chris Morris
        The company behind a proposed Green Island retail development rejected by the Dunedin City Council’s hearings committee is considering an appeal to the Environment Court. Irmo Properties Ltd had planned a new retail complex inside a refurbished World War 2-era iron roller mill building on industrial land, but consent was declined by the council’s hearings committee on August 10.
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        • Elizabeth

          ### ODT Online Wed, 9 Nov 2011
          DCC in mediation over rejected retail complex
          By Chris Morris
          The Dunedin City Council has entered mediation talks with a developer aimed at avoiding an Environment Court battle over a rejected retail complex in Green Island. It was confirmed this week Irmo Properties Ltd had lodged an appeal with the Environment Court, after its plans to convert a World War 2-era iron roller mill building into a retail centre were dismissed in August.
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        • Elizabeth

          Dunedin City Council – Media Release
          Agreement Reached for Irmo Street Retail Development to Proceed

          This item was published on 23 Dec 2011.

          Following appeal negotiations the Council has reached agreement with Irmo Properties Limited to allow a proposed 4,900m2 Trade and Retail development on an existing industrial site in Green Island to proceed. This agreement is subject to the approval of the Environment Court. The Council and Irmo Properties Limited have agreed changes to the proposed retail development. These changes will ensure that the development does not create an undesirable precedent for uncontrolled retail expansion within the city’s Industrial zones. Expert evidence was provided to demonstrate there is not likely to be any significant adverse effects associated with the proposal.
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        • Elizabeth

          ### ODT Online Wed, 4 Jan 2012
          Green Island development gets green light
          By David Loughrey
          A major multimillion-dollar retail complex should soon be under construction in Green Island, after successful mediation between the Dunedin City Council and the developer. The council agreed to the development subject to a restriction on the number of tenancies, and the types of goods sold, though the matter is subject to final approval by the Environment Court.
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        • ### ODT Online Wed, 11 Sep 2013
          Development ‘still live’
          By Debbie Porteous
          A large-scale retail development for Green Island could still happen, the developer says, despite no movement in the 18 months since consent was approved. An advertisement for Irmo St Retail, posted on the Prime Commercial real estate website in May, says the development was due to start mid to late 2013. When contacted about the advertisement, agent Dean Collins, of Colliers, said the project was still live.
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  2. Hype O'Thermia

    In the interests of transparency isn’t it time to change the name from Planning to Plotting?

  3. Hype O'Thermia

    They are barking mad, i.e. Situation Normal, All Farnarkled Up, The SNAFU, first definitively identified and named by US military back in 1941, has at brief times been threatened with programs to eradicate it which have had short term success in small areas but like the rabbit in Central Otago it proves resistant the world over, reaching epidemic proportions where conditions such as dim oversight, nest feathering and a culture in which “visions” supplant intelligent thought in the zeitgeist, up there in the loftier reaches of decision-making.

  4. Peter

    Sounds like more Big Box shops are set to destroy the commercial life of the central city. You can bet that in the future pressure will be laid on for the other kinds of retail presently disallowed in this development. That’s how developers work. Bit by bit you get what you want.
    Who was also in on this decision- aside from Colin Weatherall?
    I’m afraid it now makes me rather cynical about the DCC’s urban plans to improve the life of the city when a developer can apply pressure on the commissioners like this by threatening legal action.

  5. Anonymous

    I think it is more likely to be a behind-the-scenes battle between on the one hand the existing South D-based big-box retailers (Clear, Dippie etc) and on the other the existing suburbs big-box retailers (Chirnside etc). Remember who objected to Bunnings Warehouse development on Strathallan St…?

    • Elizabeth

      If you listen to the planners they say Princes and George Sts are too long “anyway” – they don’t subscribe as rigorously to the earlier DCC focus on maintaining the CBD together with its main (retail) street, despite what the proposed Central City Plan may say. Hell just support the Octagon bars, why not. But actually, let’s add more coffee shops and bars at ground level in the proposed “creative quarter” (oh boy, Harbourside un-reality echoes, and echoes).

      Need to remember, the planners and the hearing committee aren’t economists. And the RMA has enforced blindednesses.

  6. Anonymous

    You can’t simply designate a “creative quarter” and expect “creative” things to happen.

    • Elizabeth

      We hope DCC has some underlying business plan knocked out with the private sector to underpin the policy planning theory of the “creative quarter”, no sign of it anywhere.

  7. Peter

    Is it possible they are just at the stage of floating the idea before working out the specifics? I like the idea at least. It would be good to see that area revitalised in a way that doesn’t harm other areas like George/Princes St.
    If the ORC are going to eventually move, wouldn’t it be good if they were an anchor tenant in that area by doing up one of the warehouses there?

  8. Anonymous

    The “creative quarter”, formerly the “ICT precinct” has been an EDU project for some years now.

    • Elizabeth

      There are a surprising number of IT firms in the area, already. Problems include bringing more buildings into line with the DCC’s earthquake-prone buildings policy to give businesses certainty for investment; this will involve more freeholding of property.

  9. ### dunedintv.co.nz March 13, 2014 – 6:07pm
    DCC offers apology and compensation to a Dunedin contractor
    The Dunedin City Council has both apologised and paid $50,000 compensation to a Dunedin contractor after a staff bungle. The council has issued a formal apology to Geoff Scurr Contracting for failing to provide full information about a quarry the company owns at Merton.
    The company was given incorrect information about consent files, which would have made clear there were limits on what could be quarried. The mistake meant the company had to apply for and pursue consent under challenging circumstances.
    Chief Executive Dr Sue Bidrose says new check systems are being developed to avoid similar issues in the future.
    Ch39 Link [no video available]


    Dunedin City Council – Media Release
    DCC apologises for consent oversight

    This item was published on 13 Mar 2014

    Dunedin City Council and Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited jointly announce that the Dunedin City Council has issued a formal apology to Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited for failing to provide full information about a quarry the company owns at Merton.

    When Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited purchased the quarry it obtained a copy of the resource consent granted by the Council in 1998. During a public consultation process in 2008/9 Geoff Scurr Contracting Ltd enquired, and was told, that there was nothing on the Council’s consent file other than a copy of the resource consent. This advice was repeated by the Council in response to several enquiries in 2011. That advice was not correct. Council officers later produced a substantial quantity of further material on the Council’s files, some of which indicated there may have been limits on the volume of quarry material that could be extracted.

    The late provision of the Council’s file meant Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited had to cancel a public tender process which it had initiated. The information provided by Council was critical to that process. The company then had to apply for and pursue, under very challenging circumstances, resource consent to put it back in the position it believed it was in following the Council’s advice to the company. The Council has agreed to pay Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited $50,000 to compensate for the costs incurred as a result of Council’s staff advice.

    Chief Executive Dr Sue Bidrose says the Council is sorry the DCC put Geoff Scurr Contracting in that position and for any public embarrassment that may have been caused by the incident. The Council did not intentionally hold back the information, but clearly these events have caused the company to deal with unforeseen costs and a loss of public face.

    “The Council is putting in new check systems to avoid similar issues arising in the future and I look forward to working with Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited in the years ahead.”

    Geoff Scurr Contracting Limited’s directors are satisfied the Dunedin City Council appreciates the seriousness of Council’s failure to provide essential information in a timely manner. Mrs Scurr says “This information should have been available to the company and wasn’t. The failure to provide the requested information had serious consequences which were avoidable if things had been dealt with properly at their end.”

    Contact Chief Executive Officer on 03 477 4000.

    DCC Link

  10. A council staff member had “departed from our normal filing standards” by filing paper information relating to the quarry’s consent under a resource consent number, rather than a street address, [chief executive Sue Bidrose] said. That was because the quarry was spread over more than one property, and the staff member had been unsure which address to file it under, she said. However, it meant the information was left “in a place no-one else thought to go look for it”, and other council staff checking the paper files under the street address drew a blank for years, she said.


    Since when did a processional filing query not go to a manager or senior management for clarification and direction on how to proceed. And why wasn’t a file link (or referenced file copy) entered on the property file if the record for the property was incomplete due to “other files” being held on the resource consent file.

    A shambles. No standard filing protocol was followed. Or worse, DCC had no filing protocol (more likely).

    The information emerged later from deep within the council’s paper filing system, but only after the couple had been forced to stop a sale process and seek a new resource consent, and were warned of the potential risk of a prosecution. They had also accrued more than $200,000 in costs as a result of the time-consuming battle, which threatened to leave the business “cleaned out”, Mrs Scurr told the Otago Daily Times last year.

  11. Hype O'Thermia

    Come on, there was no procedure in place so the staff member did what seemed logical. No need for hanging and drawing. There is a need for lower levels to feel that it’s not merely OK but praiseworthy and important to go to their immediate superior officer and point out that there is a gap in the procedure for dealing with cases like this, because then the faulty system can be fixed.
    Doing one’s best is good. Asking questions isn’t evidence of dumbness, it’s the way to learn, and in cases like this it is of ongoing value to the organisation to get systems fixed as soon as they are noticed, no matter how lowly the rank of the person who points it out. Managers who get shirty about having things that don’t work pointed out to them, or are unwilling/scornful towards staff who ask for clarification, need to be retrained or booted up the bum till their brains rattle.

    • Disclaimer. For a period of time I was employed by DCC (Corporate Services) to amalgamate property files following (much later after the event) local body amalgamation. The file pathways were interesting, disjointed and lacked clear protocols. How anything was ever found by our team, I wouldn’t know. Often it was a surprise.

  12. Elizabeth

    [Alan Worthington] would encourage planners to avoid reading online comments altogether.

    ### ODT Online Sun, 22 Mar 2015
    The truth about city planners
    By Vaughan Elder
    The response on social media was fierce when a planner earlier this month recommended resource consent for a new $15 million Countdown be declined on the grounds it would have significant “adverse affects” on a residential area. […] Comments almost unanimously slammed the council and its planners for “yet again” holding back progress. […] Of the 1708 consents and other planning approvals it processed in 2013 and 2014 only 12 were declined by the council.
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  13. Elizabeth

    Perceptive comment at ODT Online:

    Submitted by sv3nn0 on Sun, 22/03/2015 – 12:23pm.

    Several points well made in this article. Some of the comments on facebook about the planners which are poor form and indeed uninformed. Pricking to ensure life etc. However there are good points on social media also and it’s good to see the ODT take them to the planners directly and get a response. We are not all uninformed trolls, just like not all planners are bureaucratic dictators! Cont./
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  14. Peter

    Yes, I thought this was a very good, thoughtful report by Vaughan Elder and puts the efforts of the planning people in perspective. They would have a hard time of it at times, I imagine.
    I wish there was more of this from the ODT.

  15. Cars

    One wonders where the Saddle Hill consent is filed and if found what would the DCC do to hide it, given the huge costs they have incurred to attempt to stop mining there.

  16. Elizabeth


    Lobby set up to oppose supermarket
    By Chris Morris
    Mosgiel residents have formed a pressure group to lobby for changes to the operation of the planned Mosgiel Countdown supermarket. The group of 25 residents have banded together under the title Positively Progressive Taieri, and hired consultancy firm Sweep Consultancy Ltd to work for them. The group’s joint submission was among 14 received by the council by a February 9 deadline, eight of which opposed Countdown’s $15 million proposed supermarket development on Gordon Rd, Mosgiel.
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    Sweep Consultancy (HR) Ltd
    NZ Companies Register: Sweep Consultancy Limited (1424946) Registered


    ###ODT Online Thu, 5 Mar 2015
    Planner strikes a blow to proposal
    By Vaughan Elder
    Countdown is “surprised and disappointed” a Dunedin City Council planner has recommended resource consent for a $15 million Mosgiel supermarket be declined. The recommendation comes on the basis the supermarket would have significant “adverse affects” on the community. The plan for a new Countdown on Gordon Rd, which was predicted to add 48 jobs, prompted concern among Mosgiel residents.
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    ### ODT Online Fri, 6 Mar 2015
    Setback, but Countdown still keen on Mosgiel
    By Vaughan Elder
    Countdown has pulled out of a resource consent hearing next week for a $15 million Mosgiel supermarket after a planner recommended consent be declined. The Dunedin City Council said yesterday the planned consent hearing had been deferred at Countdown’s request and no new date had been scheduled.
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    ### ODT Online Thu, 19 Mar 2015
    Countdown to new planning hearing date
    By Vaughan Elder
    A new date has been set for a resource consent hearing over a $15 million Mosgiel supermarket. The new date at the beginning of June comes after Countdown pulled out of the last one following a council planner’s recommendation consent be declined. Council resource consent manager Alan Worthington said a pre-hearing meeting would also be held, at Countdown’s request.
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    ### ODT Online Wed, 25 Mar 2015
    Residents open to amended plans
    By Vaughan Elder
    A resident’s group calling for changes to a planned Mosgiel Countdown supermarket is open to withdrawing its opposition if its concerns are met. […] Positively Progressive Taieri representative Emma Peters said the group of 30 residents hoped their concerns would be allayed at a pre-hearing meeting Countdown had requested for next month.
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  17. Elizabeth

    Countdown came to pre-hearing meeting with changes which addressed group concerns.

    ### ODT Online Sun, 5 Apr 2015
    Mosgiel Countdown project gets a boost
    By Vaughan Elder
    Plans for a $15 million Mosgiel Countdown have been given a boost after the company met a residents’ group which has called for changes to the project. […] Positively Progressive Taieri spokeswoman Emma Peters said the [pre-hearing] meeting was ”very productive” and the group would ”probably” – subject to receiving final design plans – remove its opposition from the project and instead support it.
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    • Elizabeth

      Proposed effects of the supermarket not spelt out by developer.

      ### ODT Online Wed, 27 May 2015
      Supermarket plan still opposed
      By Vaughan Elder
      A Dunedin City Council planner remains opposed to a proposed $15 million Mosgiel supermarket, despite several changes to the plans. The proposal for a new Countdown in Gordon Rd, which was predicted to add 48 jobs, initially prompted concern among Mosgiel residents.
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      ### ODT Online Wed, 3 Jun 2015
      Supermarket hearing starts
      By Vaughan Elder
      The fate of a $15 million Countdown supermarket proposed for Mosgiel is set to be decided at a hearing, which begins today. The proposal for a new Countdown in Gordon Rd, which was predicted to create 48 jobs, caused concern among Mosgiel residents, but the company made changes to its plan in an attempt to address them. Despite those changes, council planner Amy Young is still recommending resource consent be declined, saying in a report the application lacked sufficient detail.
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    • Elizabeth

      Mosgiel’s present Countdown supermarket is on land owned by competitor Foodstuffs, and its lease is due to expire in October 2018.

      ### ODT Online Fri, 2 Oct 2015
      Mosgiel supermarket approved
      By Craig Borley
      Mosgiel will have its giant new Countdown supermarket up and running within three years, after Progressive Enterprises was granted consent for the Gordon Rd outlet yesterday. The consent came with conditions, including no other retail stores being allowed, but a Progressive spokesman said last night the decision was “a very significant milestone” and Mosgiel residents could have “a very high degree of confidence” the store would open as planned.
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      • Elizabeth

        ### ODT Online Wed, 28 Oct 2015
        Countdown appeals ‘few’ conditions
        By Craig Borley
        The consent process for Mosgiel’s new Countdown is not done yet, with an appeal over “a few” consenting issues being lodged by the supermarket giant. Countdown received resource consent earlier this month to build its new Gordon Rd store, although it had a number of conditions attached.
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      • Elizabeth

        Tue, 22 Mar 2016
        ODT: Mosgiel supermarket accord reached
        The Dunedin City Council and Progressive Enterprises have broken ground on a contentious Mosgiel supermarket proposal. The parties reached an agreement on the proposed new Countdown after Environment Court mediation.

      • Elizabeth

        Wed, 25 May 2016
        ODT: Supermarket project under way
        Countdown confirmed this week that Amalgamated Builders Ltd had successfully tendered for the [$20 million Mosgiel Countdown project]. The firm was established in Invercargill – where its head office remains – in 1972, but has been working in Dunedin for the past three decades and its largest branch is based in the city. The 3350sq m supermarket, on the site of the former St Mary’s Primary School bordering Gordon Rd and Church St, was approved in March after a protracted consent process.

  18. Elizabeth

    ### dunedintv.co.nz April 10, 2015 – 5:54pm
    Caversham residents oppose new childcare facility
    Dunedin City Council planners are in support of a proposed childcare facility in Caversham, although it’s opposed by neighbouring residents.

    7.4.15 ODT: Planned child-care facility ire

  19. Elizabeth

    “Groundswell” of opposition to the project. –Bill Wright, lawyer

    ### ODT Online Sat, 11 Apr 2015
    Child-care centre would ‘destroy’ lifestyles
    By Vaughan Elder
    A planned child-care centre would ”destroy” the lifestyle of residents living on a quiet Dunedin cul-de-sac, a resource consent hearing heard yesterday. The public gallery was packed with concerned residents from Hazel Ave, in Caversham, who opposed the planned 100-child-capacity child-care centre in the street.
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    • Elizabeth

      Council hearings committee grants consent for development, but limits capacity to up to 60 children at any one time, down from the 100 in the developer’s proposal.

      ### ODT Online Thu, 4 Jun 2015
      Child care centre developer pulls pin
      By Vaughan Elder
      A Dunedin developer [Simon Eddy, of Eddy AP Ltd] has pulled out of a proposed $1.5 million Caversham childcare centre, saying a decision by a council hearings committee to limit capacity made it unviable. This comes after the proposal for a two-storey childcare centre in Hazel Ave sparked a strong response from neighbours, with 24 people making submissions calling for it not to be given resource consent because of concerns about noise and traffic and the quiet cul-de-sac.
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    • Elizabeth

      Mon, 16 May 2016
      ODT: Developer challenges $21,500 in consent fees
      A Dunedin developer is challenging the Dunedin City Council after he was charged more than $21,000 in resource consent fees. Simon Eddy, of Eddy AP Ltd, has objected to the fees which relate to his application for consent to build a $1.5 millionchild care centre in Caversham.

    • Elizabeth

      Thu, 2 Jun 2016
      ODT: $21,000 fees not expected by developer
      A Dunedin developer says he did not hear from the Dunedin City Council as his resource consent application fees rose to more than $21,000. Simon Eddy had applied to build a $1.5million child-care centre in Caversham. […] Mr Eddy was arguing his case at a hearing into his objection to the extent of the fees.

    • Elizabeth

      Tue, 12 Jul 2016
      ODT: Discount after developer objects to bill
      A Dunedin developer has won a $6457 discount on his resource consent application fees after objecting to a bill from the Dunedin City Council of more than $21,000. Developer Simon Eddy’s fees of $21,525 for a child-care centre that did not eventuate were the highest in the last financial year.

      The council has admitted its communications were inadequate, and a committee that considered the matter has called on staff to improve that in future. […] The committee of Crs Andrew Noone and Andrew Whiley, and Colin Weatherall ruled the fee should be cut to $15,067.

  20. Elizabeth

    If you can’t deal with documentation / formal correspondence to clarify district plan matters at the pre-application stage – GET THE HELL OUT OF THE KITCHEN and commission a reputable planner/resource management consultant to represent you; and make sure the UN-certainties are sorted out with City Planning, in writing, before you lose yourself in the process – unlike Mr Hogg. Due diligence is what it is – not he said she said. If you have difficulty with city planners, or they with you – talk to the DCC Chief Executive directly as well as Mr Pickford (GM) to establish a suitable pathway to presume. It’s not bloody rocket science.

    ### ODT Online Tue, 18 Aug 2015
    Council snags killed subdivision – developer
    By Chris Morris
    Rodney Hogg’s dream subdivision has turned into a $1 million ”nightmare” after a frustrating fight with the Dunedin City Council. Now the 65-year-old and his wife, Carolyn, are facing the prospect of starting again, while still paying off debts and haggling with the council over unpaid bills.
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  21. Elizabeth

    The city’s 2GP, notified in September …. earmarked the area as a future site for “large lot” residential development, and the proposal would be permitted once the new rules were in force. –Lianne Darby, City Planning

    ### ODT Online Wed, 4 Nov 2015
    Fresh opposition to subdivision plans
    By Chris Morris
    A developer’s long-running battle to build new homes on the outskirts of Dunedin has run into fresh opposition from neighbours and the Dunedin City Council. Thomas Richardson, a director of RPR Properties Ltd, has applied for consent to subdivide five lots into 30 smaller ones between Dalziel and Taieri Rds.
    Read more

  22. Elizabeth

    Paterson Pitts Group has altered its plans so that access to most of the proposed lots would be from Taieri Rd, with only nine having access from Dalziel Rd.

    ### ODT Online Fri, 4 Dec 2015
    Residents want rural feel protected
    By Vaughan Elder
    A group of Dunedin residents is concerned a proposed subdivision will destroy their slice of rural paradise on the edge of the city. The residents – some of whom live on lifestyle blocks – are calling on the Dunedin City Council to decline a resource consent application for a 30-site subdivision – called Westacott Heights – in Dalziel Rd, Halfway Bush.
    Read more

  23. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Thu, 21 Jan 2016
    Undeterred by subdivision setbacks
    By Chris Morris
    A Dunedin developer is counting the cost of yet another delay in his decade-long fight to progress a residential subdivision. But Tom Richardson, a director of RPR Properties Ltd, remains confident the development will eventually win approval, despite a bill for costs now approaching $500,000. Mr Richardson has just publicly notified revised plans for 34 new lots – to accompany six already consented or built – on land bordering Dalziel Rd and Taieri Rd.
    Read more

    Notified Resource Consent:
    Closes 11/02/16

    • Elizabeth

      ### ODT Online Tue, 1 Mar 2016
      Resident ‘gutted’ about subdivision
      By Vaughan Elder
      A resident is “gutted” a Dunedin City Council planner has recommended consent be approved for a subdivision locals are worried will destroy the area’s rural outlook. However, the man behind the Dalziel Rd subdivision, Tom Richardson, a director of RPR Properties Ltd, has praised council planner Lianne Darby for changing her stance on the 34-lot project after it was altered to address safety concerns.
      Read more

    • Elizabeth

      Wed, 23 Mar 2016
      ODT: Residents fear loss of lifestyle
      Arguments over whether a stretch of land on the edge of Dunedin is truly rural dominated a Dunedin City Council hearing on a controversial subdivision. […] At the hearing yesterday, [council planner Lianne Darby] reiterated her view that consent be granted for the subdivision, saying she recognised the rural character of the area would be diminished, but the area was not reflective of most rural-zoned areas “in the first place”.

    • Elizabeth

      ### dunedintv.co.nz Tuesday, April 19, 2016
      Halfway Bush subdivision consent denied
      Resource consent has been denied for the proposed subdivision of rural residential sections in Halfway Bush. The owners of five properties in Dalziel Road want to subdivide their land into 34 residential lots. The area in question covers about 16ha. Dunedin City Council planners say small domestic sections would be inappropriate in the rurally-zoned suburb. They cite potential overcrowding and traffic congestion among reasons for denying resource consent. The council’s also worried about setting a dangerous precedent in relation to allowing small lots in rural areas. Several people, including neighbouring residents, opposed the subdivision.
      Ch39 Video

    • Elizabeth

      Tue, 13 Sep 2016
      Hopes held plan will be allowed
      A Dunedin property developer hopes his plans to allow a young couple to build on an under-size block on Dalziel Rd may come to fruition, despite a planner’s recommendation to decline consent. RPR Property director Tom Richardson said changes to his application that cut the sites to be changed from two to one, and more detail that had been provided to a hearings committee, could change the planner’s decision.

  24. Elizabeth

    ### dunedintv.co.nz Mon, 15 Feb 2016 at 12:10 pm
    Planners unhappy about new supermarket
    City council planners are recommending that resource consent be declined for a new supermarket and cafe complex in South Dunedin. Raeward Fresh is applying to build a small supermarket, cafe and warehousing on the corner of Midland and Otaki streets. It would focus on locally sourced fresh produce but council planners are unhappy about a retail operation being set up in an industrial zone. Raeward Fresh started in Christchurch and was bought by Foodstuffs South Island in 2012. The Dunedin City Council hearings committee is due to consider the application next week.
    Ch39 Link [no video available]

  25. Wingatui Flyer

    How do Raeward Fresh think they are going to be able to focus on locally sourced fresh produce? The DCC has killed the local fresh produce industry in favour of building houses.

    • Elizabeth

      Another of those outfits that sources from wherever and calls it ‘locally grown produce’ ?

      • Tom

        Why are Raeward being put through all the hoops to establish on industrial land, when Veggie Boys were allowed to get the same type of business as Raeward up and running on rural land before they applied for a resource consent. It appears there are rules for council cronies, and rules for the rest of us.

        • Elizabeth

          Good question, Tom. A different or same regime at City Planning with undue political influence was it, for Veggie Boys.

  26. Callum

    I thought it would be a good idea around South Dunedin to have that type of store. It would probably make the industrial area a lot more beautiful.

    • Elizabeth

      Industrial zoning at South Dunedin is a shambles with all sorts of incursions not helped by the decision for The Warehouse (big box retail with associated open parking). Industrial land should be protected but in the last 30+ years it has been the city council’s dough ball of inconsistency and deceit across many consent applications and hearings, including plan changes.

      • Hype O'Thermia

        “Industrial” areas these days don’t make all that much sense, do they? We have less and less industry!
        The only point for them that I can see is to prevent newcomer shops, apartments and cafes from then forcing whatever industry remains to car relocate because it’s noisy or untidy eg car parts and other recyclers with the materials of their trade visible in their yard.
        It would make more sense to specify the attributes for certain areas – height, noise limits, water use and waste discharge, whatever – and let people get on with doing whatever complies with those limits wherever they want to, wherever they believe it will work for them, since the rules have been set (well, this is my idea for low ‘crat, low fuss, high satisfaction) and it is those that cannot be waived for selected favoured applicants.

        • Elizabeth

          August 2003
          Dunedin City District Plan, Section 10 – Industry [operative plan]

          Click to access Section-10-Industry-September-2013.pdf

          Because of the importance of industry to the sustainability and economic wellbeing of the City, the Council will provide for the establishment and operation of industrial activities in defined zones.
          The Council has a responsibility to manage the effects of industrial activities so as to avoid, remedy or mitigate any adverse effects on the environment. The areas in which industrial activities are located generally have lower amenity values than other areas of the City. Conflicts can arise between industrial activities and those non-industrial activities which may seek higher amenity.

          The purpose of this section is twofold:
          1. To manage the effects of the use of those natural and physical resources which are necessary to ensure the ongoing contribution of industry to the sustainability and economic wellbeing of the City.
          2. To avoid, remedy or mitigate any adverse effects on the environment resulting from industrial activities.

      • Gurglars

        Perhaps Lee Vandervis and Sue Bidrose should check on who granted the applications for the Warehouse and PAK’nSAVE on the old Caledonian ground (presumably zoned recreation) and who negotiates the Fulton Hogan contracts. As long as the files show the persons and they have not mysteriously disappeared or worse.

  27. Callum

    That’s understandable. I kind of thought the shape the warehouse sort of made it come off as industrial especially with it being a big shed or warehouse. In fact I had a lecturer who thought that shopping areas (especially upmarket shops) in an industrial area looked weird or didn’t quite fit in with the environment. An example of this would be the Tannery. Most people who come to the tannery don’t live in Woolston. The tannery is a beautiful place but with nothing up stairs (just a decorative mezzanine and banister) and its expensive.

    • Elizabeth

      Callum, the Tannery, good of you to mention! It’s a destination. Agree it’s expensive – featured it here in the past. Should hunt it out.

    • Hype O'Thermia

      Most people who go to most shops don’t live in the area! Grrrrrr! Thinking particularly of hardware and building and fencing supplies: foreshore (Bunnings, Mitre 10, Carters, Placemakers and Dunedin Timber Market) – or Mosgiel. Clustered in one area. Placemakers used to be in Anzac Avenue (near where the Fubar Stadium is now) and Mitre 10 started opposite Centre City New World where Warehouse Stationery is now.

      Talking of stationery, the cheapie shops, Happy Coin or Jolly Dollar or something, list Stationary on their signs. An immovable feast of inexpensive delights is displayed on the shelves.

  28. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Tue, 16 Feb 2016
    Fresh food market plan opposed
    By Craig Borley
    A proposed Dunedin supermarket specialising in fresh food and a market atmosphere should not go ahead, a council planner says. The Raeward Fresh store and cafe has been proposed for an industrial site in Midland St, South Dunedin. But the store’s retail activity did not fit the site’s industrial zoning and could detract from the city’s retail areas, the planner said in a report to next week’s hearings committee.
    Read more

  29. Elizabeth

    The proposal did “not sit alongside the objectives and policies” in either the existing or second-generation Dunedin district plans.

    ### ODT Online Wed, 24 Feb 2016
    Objection to new store reaffirmed
    By Craig Borley
    ….Dunedin City Council planner Darryl Sycamore has continued to recommend the proposed Raeward Fresh store, earmarked for South Dunedin’s industrial area, be turned down. More details emerged at a hearings committee meeting in Dunedin yesterday, where representatives from Food- stuffs, Raeward Fresh’s parent company, argued their case in front of committee chairman Cr Andrew Noone, Cr Lee Vandervis and commissioner Colin Weatherall.
    Read more

    • Elizabeth

      Wed, 23 Mar 2016
      ODT: Raeward Fresh decision soon
      A decision on a proposed fresh food supermarket and cafe in South Dunedin’s industrial area will be known within weeks. The Dunedin City Council has received further information on Foodstuffs’ planned Raeward Fresh store and cafe and will deliberate on the resource consent this week.


      Good point!

      Drop the booze
      Submitted by Orson not Welles on Wed, 23/03/2016 – 1:13pm.

      First indication we’ve had that Raeward plans another liquor outlet, in addition to the Pak n Save operation. SD is crawling with them, along A Bay Road. Drop the booze, or stash it out back for staff parties. More on sale is unnecessary.

      • Elizabeth

        Proposed Dunedin shop, cafe and warehouse to fill existing 3842sq m building, cnr Midland and Otaki Sts.

        Wed, 20 Apr 2016
        ODT: Raeward Fresh market approved
        A fresh food supermarket and cafe planned for South Dunedin’s industrial area has been approved by the Dunedin City Council but with a condition restricting the type of goods sold. The council’s hearings committee granted resource consent for Foodstuffs’ Raeward Fresh store and cafe, but included a condition limiting it to the sale of fresh produce, flowers, fresh meat and meat products.

        • Hype O'Thermia

          What – no liquor? Must be because children might see it.
          Wests just squeaked through the “think of the innocent children” tickboxery of a medical officer of health (a) who hasn’t been to a NZ supermarket since 1964 or (b) has been kind of weird recently.

        • Wingatui Flyer

          “Restricting what was sold would also prevent the potential precedent for a wide range of retail activities to be established in the industrial zone.”
          This sounds like another case of the council consent hearings double standard. It wasn’t that long ago that the hearings committee allowed a full range of retail activities to establish on Taieri rural high class producing soils. You can go out there and buy anything from fruit and veg, flowers, firewood, dinner sets, tools, meat, ice cream,and lots more. And sit back and have an alcoholic drink and a pie. It would appear that industrial land has a higher ranking to be protected than the food producing soils on the Taieri. Where were the rural elected representatives when they were needed?

        • Elizabeth

          You mean, Who ?

      • Elizabeth

        Not sure where DCC was going with this one. Agree, a new site seems better than wasting money on briefs at court.

        Sat, 30 Apr 2016
        ODT: New site likely for Raeward
        Foodstuffs seems unlikely to proceed with its planned $3 million to $3.5 million Raeward Fresh store in South Dunedin but is not ruling out finding another site in the wider city on which to operate the branded outlet.
        Foodstuffs property and retail development general manager Roger Davidson told the Otago Daily Times yesterday the grocery co-operative had its business model changed by the Dunedin City Council to suit a purpose – a purpose he did not understand.

        • reporter

          The Foodstuff’s GM’s comments are naive.
          The District Plan is arrived at by arduous consultation with all interested parties contributing.
          Then, later, George the Grocer comes along demanding the right to trade ultra vires and whinges when he doesn’t get his own way.
          Foodstuff’s know only to well how to wring the RMA objection towel when they are wishing to stop an opposition development.

        • Simon

          Cr Noone needs to front up and explain why he has put all these conditions on Foodstuffs’ development on Industrial land, but gave a free hand, to do as you like for a similar setup out on the Taieri’s productive rural soils. I thought Noone was a rural representative on council not the protector of Industrial land.

        • Elizabeth

          Out of Zone…. but that didn’t stop DCC granting consent to Wal’s ‘retail destination’ in the Rural Zone. What’s the difference ? DCC consenting contradictions !!!! RMA chess. Raeward didn’t have friends in Council, obviously.

          Thu, 15 Dec 2016
          ODT: Raeward Fresh plans shelved
          Foodstuffs has abandoned plans to build a $3 million to $3.5 million Raeward Fresh store at a South Dunedin site. Foodstuffs South Island Ltd chief executive Steve Anderson …. said the restrictions included in the Dunedin City Council’s resource consent meant building a Raeward Fresh at the Midland St site was not feasible. “We are genuinely frustrated to have applied for a resource consent for one business and been approved consent for a completely different type of business, which makes no sense.” Cont/

  30. Elizabeth

    Village to be marketed as “alternative residential option” targeting those aged 65 and older, who could still live independently.

    ### ODT Online Wed, 24 Feb 2016
    Retirement village proposal opposed
    By Chris Morris
    A plan to give the Shiel Hill Tavern a second life as a retirement village has run into opposition from neighbours and the Dunedin City Council. Eight neighbours have lodged submissions in opposition to the proposal, sighting concerns about the size of the building, lost views, sun and privacy, and traffic impacts.
    Read more

    May 19, 2015 – 7:40pm 39 Dunedin Television
    New local alcohol policy to be adopted Monday
    ….The latest Dunedin pub to close its doors for good was the Shiel Hill Cafe and Bar, with owners citing financial problems. [no video]
    [story withdrawn]

  31. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Thu, 17 Mar 2016
    Planner’s opinions raise ire
    By Timothy Brown
    Tempers frayed at a resource consent hearing into the future of the former Shiel Hill Tavern after its developer felt a Dunedin City Council staff member had questioned his integrity. Developer Ezra Enin and Dunedin planner Don Anderson were arguing the case for the 25-apartment retirement complex on the site of the former tavern yesterday.
    Read more

    • Elizabeth

      ‘Bar hours to fit expectations of local community.’

      Tue, 3 May 2016
      ODT: Former tavern set to reopen as bar
      A suburban Dunedin tavern is set to reopen in the coming months after closing last year. Shiel Hill Tavern will reopen as a bar while the developers who bought it continue with a plan to convert it into a 25-apartment retirement complex. The bar closed last year after more than 90 years. Dunedin planner Don Anderson, who is helping with the developers’ plans, said a liquor licence for the premises had been issued and the bar was likely to reopen in June or July, once its operator’s licence had been issued.

  32. Simon

    How is this for DCC planning logic ? The proposed Halfway Bush subdivision. Comments from a council planner that the consent be granted for the subdivision, saying she recognized the rural character of the area would be diminished, but the area was not reflective of most rural-zoned areas “in the first place”.
    Easy to guess why the area is not reflective of most rural-zoned areas, because the council planners have once again let developers dictate how to run the planning department.

    • Elizabeth

      Simon, this is what DCC calls and encourages as ‘economic development’. We fail to see any other council agenda.

    • Hype O'Thermia

      Uh? – ” the area is not reflective of most rural-zoned areas”? Rural zoned areas reflect what, and they are all alike? Or what?

      One way to make rural zoned land less rurally is to put McMansions on its edge, then the new residents will moan their tits off about rural noises and smells until landowners shift any normal rural activities as far as possible to the other side of their property… then the part nearest the housing will be, kind of, you know, not all that ruralish so it’ll be up for another favour – no no I don’t mean that – legitimate variation granted for another developer who decides to put forward something that doesn’t comply with the District Plan.
      Because the District Plan is only a bunch of vague suggestions – isn’t
      it? – that planners who are specially trained in what’s good for the city can yeah/nah as the mood (or something) takes them. OK? Sorted? Anybody still not happy?

  33. Elizabeth

    A happy resolution, it always takes Time (and Money and Resource) to get there.

    Tue, 12 Apr 2016
    ODT: Church to proceed after appeals settled
    A disputed Exclusive Brethren church on the Taieri Plain, which can accommodate almost 1500 followers, will go ahead after the church and its opponents reached an agreement. […] AgResearch and the Glenelg Gospel Trust lodged appeals against the Dunedin City Council’s consent conditions.

  34. Elizabeth

    Density of development “much higher” than district plan allows.

    Mon, 1 Aug 2016
    Planner opposes subdivision
    A proposed subdivision in a rural-zoned area near Mosgiel would create an undesirable precedent and should not be granted resource consent, a Dunedin City Council planner says. In a report, which will be included among evidence to be considered by the council’s hearings committee meeting next month, council planner Lianne Darby said the proposed Riccarton Rd East subdivision involved three “significantly undersized” rural-zoned lots.

    Planners Report – 82 Riccarton Rd East, Mosgiel LUC-2016-169 SUB-2016-28

    Notified resource consent details
    Date closed: 16/06/2016

    Consent number:
    Subdivision – 82 Riccarton Road East, Mosgiel – SUB-2016-28 & LUC-2016-169

    Name of applicant: Mainland Property (2004) Ltd [Christopher Gerard KELLIHER, 82 Riccarton Rd, East Taieri, Mosgiel 9024]

    Location of site:
    82 Riccarton Road East, Mosgiel, being that land legally described as Lot 28 Deposited Plan 341800, held in Computer Freehold Register 171990 (6.6852ha).

    Address for service:
    Mainland Property (2004) Ltd, C/- Cubitt Consulting Ltd, 11 Bedford Street, Dunedin 9012

    █ All DCC website information on the application:
    Subdivision – 82 Riccarton Road East, Mosgiel – SUB-2016-28 & LUC-2016-169

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