Transportation planning at Dunedin

### ODT Online Mon, 4 Apr 2011
Editorial: Talking about transport needs
Long-term planning, by its very nature, involves the use of the present to predict the future and therefore carries a high risk of inherent failure. When the Dunedin City Council – or any other local body – talks of 50-year plans, it is entering the realm of unpredictability. Global change is occurring at such a rapid pace today that decisions involving commitments beyond even 10 years ahead are fraught with potential pitfalls.
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11 responses to “Transportation planning at Dunedin

  1. Elizabeth

    The aim was to give people “a running idea” of what was happening around the city, so motorists could plan accordingly.

    ### ODT Online Tue, 3 Mar 2015
    DCC road works listed online
    By Chris Morris
    Dunedin motorists now have a new tool to help them dodge a bumpy morning commute in the city. The Dunedin City Council has begun publishing a list of planned roadworks across the city on its website, which will be updated each week.
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    █ The online list can be found at

    • @Elizabeth
      March 3, 2015 at 12:13 p.m.

      Looking at the ‘way back’ machine often provides a laugh especially when ”they’ look into the ‘crystal ball’

      This one below from (ODT Online Mon, 4 Apr 2011 Editorial: Talking about transport needs) made me smile: –

      “No-one today is seriously suggesting fuel prices will come down. It might therefore be arguable that elaborate and expensive adjustments and improvements to some of our major roads are similarly not justified, since the cost of private transport in 20 or even 50 years is surely beyond even a traffic planner’s imagination.”
      Yeah right!
      Today oil prices have gone into free-fall due to the fracking revolution that is transforming the United States into a major net oil exporter again and with the prospect of parts of Europe and the UK following suit. But our transportation ‘strategy’ is intent on killing off the CBD by eliminating parking to create cycle lanes for people who don’t use them while the shopping centres rebuild with massive parking facilities elsewhere – for cars!

      Meanwhile these same planners will continue with their determination to control all aspects of traffic movement until they achieve their goal – which seems to be absolute paralysis. And force the buggers to ride bikes by Jiminy.

      It is possible of course, that the planners might just blunder into making the right decision. It has been said that God works in mysterious ways.

      • Elizabeth

        Mick. Well before #eqnz, Christchurch had lost its vibrant heart due to development of suburban malls. Our local ‘greenies’ such as Jinty and Daaave seem hell-bent on performing the same disaster at Dunedin (by standing over staff) – people will always drive to ‘convenience’, and park there on privately owned sites in preference to expensive Council-controlled on- and off-street parks in the CBD, where some at least remain.
        Yes! Praise God that we will be saved. A staff uprising anytime soon?

        • More likely an exodus of staff – at first a trickle then maybe a stampede? Revolutions are ever so messy!

        • Elizabeth

          The cause?

          Jinty MacTavish in pearls at Council meeting 21.1.15 Part 2 (DCC Youtube)Cr J MacTavish in pearls at Council meeting 21.1.15 Part 2 (DCC Youtube) Link

        • Cultivated of course! North Korean?

        • Hype O'Thermia

          I wonder how much extra income Bunnings and Mitre 10, for example, make from their car parks. I for one go for 1 square-shank galv widget-scraper, then because there is no rush to get back to the parking meter I browse my way around the store, ending up with an assortment from plants to adhesives to cup-hooks to nice things for birthday and Christmas presents. There’s no problem about carrying heavy stuff to the car because I can use the shop’s trolleys, unlike if I’d parked in a parking building.
          There’s time for a cuppa. There’s time for a long chat over coffee and eats if I meet someone I know who’s also got time to relax without the worry of meter-maids collecting parking fines for the Fubar.
          Just think how much CBD shopkeepers are missing out on, despite the high rates > rentals paid to have their premises there in the “bustling” centre of town! Typical short-sighted council gouging, killing off the “recreational shopping” sector for short-term gain! Sure, the city centre bustles – night time mainly. Bars, drunks, fights, police, oh yes it’s a hub of activity. Daytime, not so much. And its relevance is fading steadily. Christchurch did it, it became a place where ordinary people didn’t bother going. Travel agents, nicknac / souvenir shops, bars, none of the everyday necessities that draw people in and then they do a bit of impulse shopping because they’ve got time to look around the nice-to-have stores.

        • Hype O'Thermia

          Elizabeth –
          I hope Jinty’s pearls are not real pearls. Innocent oysters have to DIE to satisfy women’s vanity, and that’s not fair. I expect they were made of a sustainable material, and manufactured without using, fossil fuels. She looks very nice in them, very ladylike.

          {ladylike is code. -Eds}

        • Elizabeth

          *suffers epileptic seizure

        • Elizabeth

          And about that plastic name plate posing as brass.
          (petrochemical industry profits)

          And, the polka dot water container.
          (petrochemical industry profits)

  2. Yeah Hype O’Thermia
    Riccarton Mall is the new Christchurch – owned by the Singapore Government! There’s planning for you!

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