Dunedin public library services


### ODT Online Tue, 10 Nov 2009
Post office plans revealed
By Mark Price
Dunedin City Council staff and consultants have done “most of the homework” required to convert three floors of the former chief post office, in Princes St, into a new library. Project management company Octa Associates was employed midway through the year to develop the proposal in the building owned by South Canterbury Finance.
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The former CPO gets further mention…

### ORC Wed, 11 Nov 2009
ORC office plans little advanced, Cairns says
By Rebecca Fox
The Otago Regional Council had not advanced its plans for new office premises much since it shelved its $31 million waterfront proposal in June, chairman Stephen Cairns said. It was unlikely the issue would come before the council “this side of Christmas”.
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### ODT Online Wed, 11 Nov 2009
‘Skeleton’ development urged
By Mark Price
Grant McLauchlan, the Dunedin businessman turning the former RSA clubrooms in the central city into office space yesterday urged the Dunedin City Council to follow suit with the former chief post office, in Princes St. Council staff are investigating using the basement and two floors of the old post office for a new public library, with five higher floors potentially available as office space.

• Council property manager Robert Clark said the investigation into the library proposal, being carried out by Octa Associates, was a joint venture between the council and the building’s owner, South Canterbury Finance. It had yet to be determined who would own the building if the library went ahead.

• Mr Clark said he had received “another memo” yesterday from “some people up north” who were coming to Dunedin next week to “discuss the possibility of a hotel in the existing library”.
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Posted by Elizabeth Kerr


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32 responses to “Dunedin public library services

  1. Elizabeth

    I’ve transferred comments about library development from Stadium – serious work for the pay to this new thread.

    The former CPO and library equation has been commented on previously at What if? When time I’ll search and enter links to track this.


    Alistair Mackay
    November 10, 2009 at 7:43 am

    Our poor City has had big rates increases over the last two years and is facing more big rates increases in the years to come.
    The latest hare-brained scheme is to move the Library to the old Post Office. We already have an excellent library in a good location. And internet has reduced the importance of libraries: they are no longer the primary source of information in the community.


    November 10, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Sorry, but are you serious?

    The latest scheme to move the library is a fantastic one, as long as they get the building right.

    You seem to overestimate the importance of the web with regard to the place of the library in modern society.

    Being a massive web user, I can honestly say, the library has never been more important to me. Modern libraries are more than just a source of ‘information’. Information as such is only a very small part of our existence. Inspiration and education are every part as important and libraries in their current guises will continue to play an important role in society.

    Further, not everyone has the internet yet, they don’t know how to use it, and yes in this day and age, not everyone is on broadband.

    Libraries in other cities are also combining essential social and civic services – essentially a one stop shop for civic information and services.

    While I access the web at least 8-10hrs a day, I don’t and can’t access all of the material that is in the library, in particular much of that amazing magazine and journal collection that they have is not available on the web, or is subscription only.

    Further the tactile and wonderful nature of books, magazines, journals, CDs, DVDs, Talking Books, etc all have a place in most people’s lives these days. As BIG a fan of the web as I am, books will never be replaced completely.

    But then we also have to look at the evolving nature of the web and library. While they both impart information and knowledge the web is one hell of a long way behind any library as an experience.

    I hope they get the new building right. It needs several things.

    It needs a proper layout with good design – the current place was good, but is starting to feel a little like it’s had bits added-on (which it has).

    Parking – to get a park in or near the current library requires one massive amount of luck or persistence.

    Services, it also needs to include access to council staff and possibly social services. The model where this has been done like in New Brighton in ChCh show that this combination of library with council service centres is a good thing.

    Cafe – it needs a cafe. A place for people to actually congregate and converse. The many libraries I have been in nationally and internationally that have stood out from the rest have been those which have included things like cafes and media rooms.

    Interaction with the community. Vancouver Public Library has the most wonderful community programme, including quest speakers and readers, activities etc. Ours does to a certain extent but could be improved immensely. Take for instance art. The library has a great wee art and architecture collection. Why not have a session(s) where people get to try screen printing or model making etc – I’ve seen it done elsewhere and it could easily be done here.

    The current location is not good, for the actual space that it is in and the parking issues alone. The ability to expand is minimal – there are simply too many constraints.

    And no libraries will not diminish their role within the community – not for a very very long time.


    Alistair Mackay
    November 10, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I regularly visit and appreciate the perfectly good library in a good location, that we already have.
    Something needs to be done to mitigate the risks that the City is taking with gambles on the Stadium and the Town Hall upgrade, and reduce the projected rates rises and debt.
    A library move will add no functionality to the City, except perhaps to provide room in the old library space for even more bloat in the Council bureaucracy.


    November 10, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    A new library? Yet another case of taking on serious debt to the tune of tens or hundreds of millions – to DUPLICATE what we already have.

    Imagine what NEW facilities we could have for $200m, or $45m, or $26m. Hell, it only cost us $1.5m for the Chinese Garden.

    The council has already announced a rates increase from an average $1400 per house to over $2000 by around 2012.

    That’s taking $600 (and increasing further) out of the average households disposible income, every year.

    Hundreds of millions spent by the city that will make not a shred of difference to the lives of the vast majority of ratepayers – what a waste.


    November 10, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    I’m keen to see the design proposal to extend across Bond St into the current carpark area, having been privy to the previous design for a multilevel carpark building and storage associated with proposed hotel and apartment development.

    None of the previous versions of a ‘carpark building’ really adequately addressed the aesthetics of the former Chief Post Office or the heritage precinct that the rear of the CPO backs into, and which has a number of adapted buildings with apartments. Personally, I would like to see some considerable care and skill put into the aesthetic design of any building extension – such that, the architect firm consulting on the CPO-library project, good chaps all and skilled at getting projects through, might be persuaded to use the services of an independent consulting design architect / urban designer, to enhance the chances of a happy solution in a sensitive site area. That’s my personal opinion and is constructive criticism, and should be taken in this vain.

    I have an open mind on the merits of shifting central library services to The Exchange, and am not jumping either way until I see the options, the preferred option, and all associated feasibility and reports.

    If a case is properly geared to converting the currrent library building to a private a hotel to better optimise the Dunedin Centre and Town Hall redevelopment, then that side of my mind is open too. I say that as a person who enjoys the current library building for what it is and can be further, as a contemporary library space. Much of the internal “add-ins” have poorly treated the style of the building, as utilitarian as they are.

    Once again, design, functionality and clear-sighted planning has not been the whole equation for meeting future use demand – it really shows. If we don’t invest in quality design and planning we look half cocked and derelict in our civic duty to explore our best potential in the assets and resources we hold or are looking to acquire.

    Watching this one VERY closely.

    I’m a regular user of library services. As a contractor, I lightly assist library marketing and events.

    • Elizabeth

      ### ODT Online Wed, 9 Dec 2009
      Post office plan decision delay
      By David Loughrey
      A final decision on the future of the former chief post office building in the Exchange may be made later next year than expected, but the financial investigations being done by the Dunedin City Council are looking “reasonably good”, council property manager Robert Clark said yesterday.
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  2. meg55

    All that money for LESS space. And try making that very grim austere building (the facade anyway) look more user friendly … How are they going to do that? We have a purpose built library – why not spend the money adding onto that, if you want a refit? Also, I can’t agree with Elizabeth about building across Bond Street. You want to enhance the heritage appeal of the area and bring in more people? Why start by destroying the original street plan, which is a historic treasure in itself?

  3. meg55

    And as for a hotel in the present library – over my dead body. Why don’t they do something for people who live here for a change, instead of catering to visitors. Since when was the council in the hospitality business? And anyway, there is a hotel just across the road. I fail to see how building another one would attract more people to their conference facilities and where’s the business case for either of these plans (hotel or conference centre) anyway?
    Why can’t they get SOMETHING right?
    (And by the way, they have just signalled messing up the one thing that most people seemed to wholeheartedly agree with – the purchase of Harbour Cone – by mooting the idea of a housing development of all things.)

  4. Peter B

    I have no difficulty with the idea of additional hotel space in the city. If Hilton or some other chain wanted to utilise the Moray Place library site and the purchase cost of the building helped to defray development costs for a library in the old CPO then I’d say it would be a win-win situation for Dunedin.

    • Elizabeth

      Re: “Also, I can’t agree with Elizabeth about building across Bond Street.”

      It’s not about me. That section of Bond St is no longer public road, and hasn’t been for years.

      Hotel has been mentioned for the current library, as has officing. Suggest wait for the feasibility and options to be published.

  5. Peter Entwisle

    Building across Bond Street is the flaw in this conception.

    This is just the latest in a series of misguided attempts to destroy the vistas and spaces of Kettle’s street plan. There was the DCC idea to build across Lower High Street; the bungle which resulted in the misplaced Pai Lou in lower Rattray Street. Some people don’t get it that the spaces in between are as important as the buildings.

    Bond Street is one of the best in Dunedin. It would be good to replace Edinburgh House. Killing the space is stupid and blind.

    Another own goal to council if it ticks the box for this one.

    Peter Entwisle

    • Elizabeth

      I maintain we need to see the options before jumping on the unknown.

      PS I’m not supporting replicas. Sorry!!!!! (it’s fair to assume there will be no replica as an option)

  6. mousedunedin

    What ever happened to the private sector funding these projects???? They all seem to be sitting on their hands while the Dunedin rate payers get shafted.

  7. meg55

    But WHY turn the library into a hotel Peter? Why not leave it as a library?

    I’ve got a better idea. Let the library – the heart of Dunedin for many residents – expand into the civic centre. Shift the DCC’s commercial enterprises to the Exchange. Do you suppose they would have that on? Of course not. They want to be in the heart of things. As the residents and ratepayers do, but it appears we don’t count.

    Elizabeth, I would be happy to wait and see the results of their feasibility studies if it weren’t for the fact we’ve just been railroaded into the stadium in just this way. The DCC’s modus operandi is clear. They decide what they want, progress the chosen option to the detriment of other plans, engage in token consultation with the public and then go head with their chosen option no matter what anyone says. The ODT’s ra-ra front page lead story on this option with nary of mention of any others is hardly encouraging.

  8. David

    Can someone please remind me what the terminal problem is with the current library?

    (clearly it has serious terminal problems if it needs a $26m complete replacement).

    Or has someone just pulled an idea out of the sky, and said – “why don’t we completely replace our stadium,…….er, I mean Dunedin Centre……er, no, how about the library.”

    What next? Let’s spend tens of millions and shift the council next door?

    Perhaps they’ll buy shops, rip them down, and spend $35m building…..er…shops….in their place (ooops – that’s already been done at the Deka site).

    In our street they ripped up a perfectly good footpath, and a team spent a whole week and thousands of dollars making a new one, just like the old one. It didn’t need it, but it was probably on a schedule.

    The wastage of ratepayers money in this city is epidemic.

  9. Phil

    There are a few issues that I think are at influencing factors for this project. The first is the Civic Centre accommodation problems. With the Ground Floor being revamped for public meeting spaces, which I think is great, the existing call centre needs to be relocated. Problem is that there exists no suitable vacant space within the Civic Centre. So they have to go somewhere. Together with the Events Centre and Graphic Design departments, also located on the Ground Floor. Add into the mix the City Property staff who are about to be displaced from the Municipal Chambers, and you’ve got about 60 homeless staff members. That’s a factor that needs to be resolved before Christmas. If the Water and Waste department is sold off, maybe they can be shuffled out of the building, freeing up half of one floor. But it’s a big problem.

    I’ve always believed that the Civic Centre building is the wrong location for the Call Centre. Call Centres have specific environmental requirements that cannot be met by the Civic Centre building services systems in their current format. It’s also a function that does not need to be on-site. I remember listening to a comedian who was planning a holiday to India. He wanted to know what the weather would be like. So he phoned his bank. The Call Centre can go either to the Library building, or to the CPO. Personally I would favour the CPO as its open plan layout lends itself better to fitting out a specialised area such as a Call Centre. And the building will require new building services anyway.

    City Property has the issue of 900 elderly housing tenants, who like to see their landlord every now and then. Part of the important social function that Council performs. So they need to be easily accessible, but not necessarily in the Civic Centre. There was an argument raised a few years back that the City Property Manager preferred to be located outside of the Civic Centre building, so that sensitive commercial property negotiations could be carried out away from the public gaze. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is an issue, but that was the rationale. Either way, that department needs a new home, and either the Library or CPO would suffice there. Graphic Design and events, I believe, belong in the current building.

    The second influencing factor, I believe, is securing a long term source of commercial property income. I might be wrong in this, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that property was the second largest contributor to the income of the DCC, after rates. There’s a limit to how much can be taken from rates, so sound property investment is the logical alternative for an organisation where income is stretched. They already own the building, so it could be that only an internal fitout is required. As per the former IRD building on Princes Street. I don’t know what the final cost to that project was, but, based on some of the subtrade packages, I would guess at around 10 to 15 million dollars. A hotel on prime CBD land is probably a better investment than one located outside of the CBD. I’m probably not convinced that’s a good enough reason though. Just now.

  10. Phil

    I’m right with you Paul, on your assessment of a Public Library in today’s society. One of the biggest problems facing libraries in NZ, is the stigma of the name. Library. People are hung up on that word, and the concept of books. Modern libraries around the world today are so much more than that. Many have even lost their traditional name. The ones that I saw in Europe were called “Culture Houses”. And they were the focal point of the city. They incorporated performance theatres, conference rooms, restaurants, coffee shops, internet cafes and tourist information centres. While taking up the bulk of the space, the actual book function was almost secondary. The buildings are designed specifically for people to just come by and spend the day. A modern day town square that perfomed a very important social function. As well as giving the city a physical heart.

    I’d have one of those over a stadium any day.

  11. David

    Phil – you say a library is the physical heart of the city. At its current site, maybe, but if its distance from the Octagon away in the Exchange, it would be more like a pacemaker, on an extension cord.

    All the problems you list aren’t really with the library – they’re with the council offices.

    So after we’ve spent $26m to shift the library, I suppose we’ll be up for millions more to rehouse and shuffle council offices between the current library and civic centre.

    It’s like musical chairs – the stadium has upped and moved north, the Dunedin Centre has upped, gone around in a circle, and will end up where it started, the post office moves from the Exchange to next door in the Exchange (years ago), library moves to the Old Post Office, ORC moves to the Old Post Office, council moves to the library, hotel moves to the council offices – hundreds of millions spent and we don’t have much different to what we started with, and not a single new facility – not one – just everything in a different place and a 20-year loan.

  12. Phil

    Those staff have to go somewhere, and it would be hard justifying retaining an entire CPO so that relocated staff could use one floor. This is all just speculation, remember. Having the library there and then bringing in the ORC, would pretty much fill the building. Fixing the DCC and ORC accommodation issues, and giving the library and call centres the chance for a complete rehash and make over. From the ground up.

    Personally, I think that the land currently occupied by the Library is considered to be too valuable an asset not to be generating a high level of income. Especially with the Town Hall revamp. So my feeling is that the Library was always going to be asked to move. I think that’s the number one factor behind this.

    I do believe that a relocated and modernised Library will be the communal heart of the city. Regardless of its geographical location. Within reason, of course. It’s still on the major public transport routes, which is the key. People will generally drive anywhere in Dunedin. And it’s close enough to the CBD to have small feeder businesses start up around it, which in turn can encourage slightly larger fish to nibble. I recall how busy Rattray Street, Princes Street and Lower Stafford Street retail was when the area was occupied by NZPO, DSW, IRD and MOW staff.

    The physical shape of the existing Library building, while slightly iconic, does not allow for the activity inside to be futureproofed. If 25 million is going to be spent on a Library, I would rather see it spent on a facility that has the scope and potential to look into the future and ensure that the needs of a changing society can be best met. Whether that’s relocating to an existing building, or starting again from scratch, I really don’t care. Throwing it at the existing building will just give a fresh face to an outdated look.

  13. David

    Phil – the point is, after spending $26m, will we have anything that’s much better than what we have now?

    That is a vast sum of money to spend, when you’re not doing much more than shift down the road to offer the public the same books (or a million less books than you could if they spent the $26m at Whitcoulls).

    Effectively they’ll be adding half a year’s rates to every house in the city to see the same books. We could shift the library, OR give every house $600 and use the current library. What do you reckon the result of a referendum would be on that?

    They could quite possibly throw away all that money and have LESS people use the library than currently (it’s quite possible the stadium will have that issue as well).

  14. Phil

    Well that’s right. They could just can the project. And distribute the staff around the various vacant office building space in the city. But that’s not going to happen.

    And if all they intend to do with the current library is to simply pick it up and place it down somewhere else in exactly the same format then I agree, it’s a waste of time and money. Libraries are always the poor cousins when it comes to funding. So it’s unlikely they will get this opportunity again. Hopefully those giving the consulting advice are looking a bit further beyond Blueskin Bay for their inspiration.

    I’ve never found OCTA to be terribly inventive or innovative. But they are the favoured son.

  15. David

    And we haven’t even discussed how a large part of book use might be redundant in the next few years.

    Downloading books in your own home for the price of a bus fare will substantially curtail many people’s use of real books.

    Similarly google books will have a substantially detrimental effect on library use.

    Has the council done any predictions on how libraries will be used in the next 5-10 years.

    When researching for writing books ten years ago, I was always at the library. These days much of the information at the library is pretty old and hard to find compared to the internet – I never use the library these days for information and research.

    There’s certainly about to be large changes in the way people can access fiction and non-fiction.

    It’s really bad timing to be spending $26m just to shift the books (just like building a rugby stadium at a time when spectators are plummeting).

  16. David

    Why do the DCC no longer fit into the Civic Centre?

    Dunedin’s population is pretty static. DCC should be looking at keeping the same or lower staff numbers, specially at a time like this.

    Is the real problem that the DCC is mushrooming at the same speed that they force rate increases?

    They’ve become an out-of-control spending machine – $13,000 debt per house and climbing.

    That would take nearly ten years of residential rates just to pay the capital, let alone interest (with zero for services during that time).

    I suppose it’s easy for them to forget the relationship between over indebtedness, ability to pay, and recession, if they weren’t alive in the 1930s or now.

    • Elizabeth

      ### ODT Online Wed, 12 May 2010
      Finishing touches to Civic Centre
      By Chris Morris
      The finishing touches are being added to the Dunedin City Council’s redeveloped Civic Centre reception area. The council has invested $2.5 million since late last year remodelling the ground floor reception used by its customer services agency and other staff, as well as reshuffling departments on the building’s upper floors.
      Read more

      • Elizabeth

        ### ODT Online Wed, 12 May 2010
        Library rethink after former post office sold
        By David Loughrey
        Plan for the future of Dunedin Public Library will have to go back to the drawing board, after the announcement yesterday the former chief post office in the Exchange had been sold for a hotel development. Yesterday’s announcement has also removed one option for the Otago Regional Council in its search for a new headquarters.
        Read more

  17. Phil

    The staff are pretty packed in there right now. It’s not a terribly inspiring environment. Part of the problem is the building geometry, the floor area gets smaller as the height increases. The top 3 or 4 floors have half of the area of the lower floors. The other problem is that two floors with the largest floor areas are occupied by relatively few people. Comparatively speaking. Being the second (Civic) and third (IT) floors. You can swing several cats at once on those floors. So there are some major inefficiencies in the useage of floor space.

    Why there are more staff issues today, I’m not sure. The City Engineers have moved out, and City Property USED to be in the building. So you would think that there would be more room. I think that changes in central government legislation have resulted in staff increases. I’m thinking there of Building Control, City Planning, and Environmental Health. BC has probably doubled in size. I guess if that’s the case, then we should be hearing the same concerns from every council in the country?

  18. You can find equally good, and bad, reasons for moving the library down to the old Post Office, as far as I can see. What is gained and what is lost? What is the ultimate cost to the ratepayer? Are the benefits worth that cost? $26m is huge money – especially when it is borrowed. I wonder if this proposal will inevitably go the same way as the proposed ORC harbourside building ‘vision’? Conceptual plans and artist’s visual drawings look exciting and we can all ‘get off’ on them. (They cost the ratepayers, but the consultants are happy.) Don’t we need to take stock first, concerning what we owe with our increasing debts, before we get excited by the next new project that takes our fancy? With the stadium going ahead we are now restricted by what else we can do in the way of worthwhile, financially sustainable projects – for probably a generation or two. The next council, and the one after, will have to cope with the binge spending of the present council. There will be a large number of unhappy groups in the community who will not be able to get their worthy pet project off the ground. ‘Sorry, folks, not enough money. We have to pay off more on the stadium first. Put your ideas down in a submission to the next LTCCP and we’ll ‘consider’ it.’ It is so hard to say, ‘No’.

  19. James

    Clarification on new library size
    The carpark plus Bond St is approx 42 x 45m, which would provide ~1800m2 per floor. At 3 floors, this is close enough to 6000m2, so by the time part of the existing CPO is used, the proposed CPO library would be substantially bigger than the existing Moray Place library.
    On a related note, I think that a library space with fewer floors is also likely to use space more efficiently than the existing library.

    And just a few thoughts on the existing library.
    *The current [building] has real problems with heating, light and ventilation. It is not a particularly pleasant work environment.
    *From a helpdesk point of view, it’s often frustrating having to listen to someone’s query, and then refer them to a different floor (although in the last 10 years, systems have been put in place to get around this to a certain extent)
    *When the bookbuses were last replaced, they had to be custom-built to fit the space where the previous bookbuses had been parked. It’s also a fairly mean feat of backing, although with practice, it gets easier!

    Thoughts on libraries and moving
    *Information technology is making great inroads, but it’s hard to tell if and when books may become obsolete. And there are still large parts of the community who do not have such good access to IT resources who will continue to rely on physical books for some time.
    *Libraries are increasingly less about books, but are still very popular. The main library at the university has far fewer books than its previous smaller incarnation, but is still very heavily used as a resource.

    • Elizabeth

      Books are cool. Who wouldn’t like to own a great bookstore, a private library – or amazon.com

      • Elizabeth

        Why would anyone talk this development option down – let me count the ways!

        ### ODT Online Tue, 17 Nov 2009
        Hotel unlikely use for library building, Scenic director says
        By Mark Price
        Dunedin’s biggest hotelier, Scenic Hotel Group, yesterday rejected the idea the Dunedin City Council’s public library building in Moray Pl could be turned into a hotel. Director Stuart McLauchlan said the big hotel chains were interested in managing hotels, not creating them, and it would be difficult to find a developer for such a project.
        Read more

  20. Phil

    I think that’s a fair assessment from Scenic Circle. Certainly that was how their latest Princes Street hotel was presented. The building owner developed the site and then leased the operating business to Scenic Circle. That would seem reasonable, hotel operators generally don’t want to be builders. Or even property owners.

    So this venture would rely on Council selling the property as an empty shell. Alternatively, Council retains ownership of the building, develops the interior, and then leases to an operator.

    Merits and pitfalls in both schemes.

    Of course the third alternative is to retain, develop, AND operate. As per Wall Street. Which I guess would move the property into the realms of the new events venue mangement company. Probably the least preferred option, and the one carrying the greatest risk.

    • Elizabeth

      I was a bit mystified by ODT’s first sentence:

      “Dunedin’s biggest hotelier, Scenic Hotel Group, yesterday rejected the idea the Dunedin City Council’s public library building in Moray Pl could be turned into a hotel.”

      – even taking into account the figures cited further down the item.

      Of course the current Public Library can be turned into a hotel – it depends what sort of hotel, to meet which market(s) and in view of its sustainability as a business initiative.

      But Council is still hunting around as to possible future use of the building, and how development (into ‘anything’??)(by who??) might give good returns.

      A trace unusual for Stuart McLauchlan to do a public burst on this, the power of free speech accepted. He may well be right, but we hanker to see other opinions for balance.

  21. Phil

    I agree, Elizabeth. I don’t think that was what Scenic Circle were saying at all. It seemed quite clear they were saying that someone else would have to develop the site first, and THEN offer it to hotel operators such as Scenic Circle.

    The building options are limited to office space, accomodation development (be that hotel or townhouses), or, just to be a bit crazy, a public amenity building. Say, a library, for example.

    I’m not sure that private corporate office space is a big prospect. I think there are still large vacant areas with the National Mutual building, and John Wickliffe House. Not sure that we need another whole building. It would solve the staff overflow problems in the Civic Centre, but then what to do with the empty CPO ? And I do have a basic objection to the DCC competing directly against the local ratepaying market. That’s an unfair advantage.

    Where I can see a demand for office space, is with the provision of short term fitted out office space. With more people working either self employed, or as contractors, I can see a niche market for a small building with small offices rooms, available for daily or hourly rental. Desk, chair, computer, fax, printer, telephone. Somewhere a sole trader can go and do their invoicing, monthly accounts, interview staff, or meet the clients. I can see a real winner there. That’s not enough for an entire building, but maybe a couple of floors of the library might suffice. Especially if they retained the staff kitchen area on the upper floor. It would also offer private meeting facilities for users of the new Town Hall conference centre. Or indeed, City Councillors. Again, a market, and ideally located. Feels a litle bit of a wasted use, however.

    • Elizabeth

      ### ODT Online Sat, 21 Nov 2009
      Hotel owner looks at library
      By Simon Hartley
      International hotel chain Rydges Hotels and Resorts – with 40 hotels and 7200 rooms worldwide – has been scouting several properties in Dunedin for development, including the Dunedin City Library in Moray Pl.
      Read more

  22. Now the plans for moving the Library have been scuttled, this gives the opportunity to put the plans for a new Library on long-term hold, and remove $20 million from the DCC Long Term Plan. Rates are currently projected to rise by 65% over the next 8 years, which is totally unacceptable. We already have a perfectly good library. A new library is a luxury that the City cannot afford.

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