Calvin Oaten: "a very bad project at a very bad time, made by a seriously negligent council"

### ODT Online Sun, 31 May 2009
Opinion: Your Say
Budget and Stadium
By Calvin Oaten

An open letter to Mr English and PM Key:

Mr English, dear sir,
I have followed with interest your presentation of the budget with all the qualifying comments pertaining to the protection of the country’s economy during these stressful times…
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Mr Oaten goes on to discuss funding for the stadium, including the effect of government’s $15 million grant to part bridge the shortfall in private sector funding.


Filed under Architecture, Economics, Geography, Hot air, Media, Politics, Stadiums

5 responses to “Calvin Oaten: "a very bad project at a very bad time, made by a seriously negligent council"

  1. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Wed, 3 Jun 2009
    News: Dunedin | Annual Plan 2009-10
    7% rise likely as cutting effort fails
    By Chris Morris

    Ratepayers are facing a 7% rise in rates for the coming financial year, after last-minute attempts by the Dunedin City Council to shave spending fell flat.
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    ### ODT Online Tue, 02/06/2009 – 10:54pm.
    Comment by photonz on So Dunedin has come to this?

    $200,000,000 for a second rugby stadium, but we need charity to pay for security cameras?
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    ### ODT Online Wed, 03/06/2009 – 9:53am.
    Comment by anneeliot on Let’s scrap the stadium

    The rates rise is a disgrace. In a time of recession in particular, with job losses and other financial constraints placed on ratepayers, the constant rates increase is unpalatable. I note nothing was said of scrapping the stadium, the albatross around our necks. That is, after all, a project that does not have ratepayer support (remember the university survey) and is an anomaly all round through the failed processes of council. I call for the stadium to be scrapped. Now.

  2. Elizabeth

    The gyratory is off the books, we’re told by Cr Walls…

    ### ODT Online Thu, 04/06/2009 – 10:32am.
    Comment by MikeStk on costs

    The original $188M was supposed to cover everything – the newer $198M was because the land cost more than they thought. Mr Harland’s recent affidavit gives a total figure of $217.4M without really explaining how the cost could suddenly have ballooned – more recently they’ve added $200k for temporarily closing some roads during construction (so we’re at $217.6M and counting). This includes the land but doesn’t include moving SH88 and building their roundabout-in-the-sky over the railway which will be many millions more.
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  3. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Wed, 03/06/2009 – 4:13pm.
    Comment by mt on rates increase

    0.1% more.. gasp. People would probably still complain if it was less.


    ### ODT Online Thu, 04/06/2009 – 10:49am.
    Comment by anneeliot on Rates rise again.

    This is missing the point. The rates rise is not .1% but 7%. Way above the rate of inflation and rises in most people’s income. This is a continuing saga. Read up on Exponential Growth and you will see that at this rate, it is just 10 years until our rates have actually doubled. I recommend Al Bartlett’s “The Essential Exponential.” There is also a series of YouTube videos here: One of his famous sayings is: “The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”


    ### ODT Online Thu, 04/06/2009 – 12:01pm.
    Comment by Roller on Poor Mayor Chin

    How wretched Mayor Chin and his councillors must feel to be unable to control city rates. And they do so want life in Dunedin to be affordable. If, instead of running selective ‘feedback campaigns’, they’d only listen to 80% of Dunedin ratepayers, their problem could be largely solved.
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  4. “if the many expert commentators have been correct in predicting”

    which experts would this be? Care to name any who haven’t made fools of themselves over this issue. I’d love to see one accountant or economist pin their reputation to the insanity of the STS and cost this thing out into the high hundreds of millions and take a thousand years to repay. What? You can’t come up with one?

    Would these also be the esteemed Professor of English decrying the rise of sea level due to anthropocentric global warming, who’s figures just aren’t backed up but anything published by NIWA.

    Would this be the ‘experts’ from Marketing at Otago, whom have colluded to come up with all manner of insane remarks and predictions, 19,000 capacity or Twickenham is a single use stadium.


  5. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Mon, 08/06/2009 – 9:29am.
    Comment by Sally on Irresponsible decision

    Calvin, I congratulate you on your excellent “open letter”, to the PM and Minister of finance. Theirs was an irresponsible decision in granting $15M of taxpayer funds towards the “white elephant.” Recent headlines are examples that ratepayers’ misery will be forever ongoing. “Hamilton ratepayers are forking out $300,000 a year to balance the books for Waikato Stadium and the $18 million loan that helped build the facility won’t be paid for almost 20 years.” (3/6/09) “The proposed $1.15 million annual bill to keep Stadium Southland in good working order is likely to grow in future years, according to the Community Trust of Southland.” (19/5/09) Invercargill “Mayor seeks $1m more for stadium,” 8/6/09

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