Stadium: Letters are 'no use'

Much has been made by CST and DCC pro stadium councillors of the letters of support (in principle) received from various organisations. CST made the approaches, with the result most if not all letters arrived in January.

They were published in the report to Council on February 9, 2009. Link

Make up your own minds whether they carry something substantive to the proposed stadium’s operational viability.

PricewaterhouseCoopers at page 7 of their report dated 30 January 2009 (see above link) said:

“Although the underlying assumptions for rugby related cash flows are now more conservative (a reduction in total rugby event revenue of on average $276,000 per annum), we reinforce the caveats noted in our December 2007 report and in [Horwath HTL’s] December 2008 Report that there is uncertainty about the structure of NZRU and SANZAR competitions after 2010. Consequently, there is uncertainty about the number and quality of games that will be played in Dunedin.”

We all know the proposed stadium is ascendant on the theory that three 2011 RWC pool games to be played at Dunedin make a new stadium mandatory…

[ignore the fact the games have been assigned to Carisbrook]

We find ourselves building a very expensive shed for just three games and as a sop to future rugby.

Is the ‘national game’ worth this sort of investment. Only complete fools would think so. And yet we have these sorts of people on the Dunedin City Council and the Carisbrook Stadium Trust.

They are people we cannot afford to support, and should not support for our community well-being. We have some fruitful months ahead to debate this.

The wolf is already at the stadium’s door.


Local businessman Michael Stedman in a letter to the editor (ODT, 20.4.09) said:

“Cr Bill Acklin’s response (ODT, 8.4.09) to Mark Laughton’s article (ODT, 7.4.09) is long on rhetoric and nostalgia but, like so many before him, short on fact and detail.


This is a fair ask.

Cr Acklin responded (abridged by ODT):

“Your correspondent can find information on proposed users of the stadium on the city council website, under ‘Council meeting of February 9, 2009, under reports, attachment 2, part 2’.


How absolutely futile to educate Cr Acklin on the fact that Dunedin is a well established, mapped and revered New Zealand city, today and into the future.

This attractive liveable city district is made special by the people who reside here, including those who strongly work their connections regionally, nationally and internationally.

Fear, it is the Dunedin City Council who makes us small – or dying – since according to pro councillors without a “wow” “fantastic” stadium there is no future in town.

The plastic lunch box exercise – call it what you will – is nothing short of a disingenuous, relentless undermining of business ethics, transparency and public accountability.

Watch the bad apples.


Filed under Stadiums

7 responses to “Stadium: Letters are 'no use'

  1. Elizabeth

    ### ODT Online Tue, 21/04/2009 – 6:37pm.
    Comment by gplusa on Public record

    ### ODT Online Tue, 21/04/2009 – 1:59pm.
    Comment by derek on Why pay to become poor?


    It appears that on the popping of corks Our Stadium or CST has hobnailed its boy followers to write to ODT venting adoration for DCC/CST…

    ### ODT Online Tue, 21/04/2009 – 5:05pm.
    Comment by Missy222 on Sycophants

  2. KLK

    I’m not sure of the relevance of two failed events in Auckland. If they were the only events, sure. But they are not.

    If we are talking Auckland, of more relevance, I would have thought, would be the recent NBR article on the Vector Arena – a multi-purpose venue with perhaps less flexibility than FB Stadium given it is much smaller and grass sports can’t play in it.

    Relatively new and paid for by the Auckland City Council, it has had more people (95,000) through the gates in Q1 2008 than Madison Square Garden. It currently ranks no.17 in the world for ticket sales/attendance.

  3. KLK

    Should have read “Q1 2009”.


  4. Paul

    KLK thanks so much for that. I too heard that insane mayor on the news, and yes you are right to be making Apples for Apples comparisons. I knew Vector arena was good but not that good. But that beautifully illustrates the importance of a fantastic management team. It’s still the same supposed apathetic Auckland population but suddenly they are going out in record numbers. What’s responsible for this, a top class facility and an Extremely effective management team. FB Stadium could be the best in the world but that would amount to naught if the management team was incompetent.

  5. KLK

    Its amazing what its done for the Auckland events scene. The line-up in ’09 so far:

    Leonard Cohen
    Westpac Trust Halberg Awards
    Nine Inch Nails
    Crusty Demons
    Fall Out Boy
    Billy Connolly (3 nights)
    Eric Clapton
    Coldplay (2 nights)
    Kings of Leon
    Axis Awards 2009
    The Wiggles (4 shows)
    The Killers

    While Q2 2009 will see The Pussycat Dolls, Disney on Ice and Simon & Garfunkel.

    Concerts, ice skating performances, motorcross….the benefits of a multi-purpose facility. I bet they wish they had a grass pitch to add rugby, football, league etc to the list :-)

  6. Jay

    Vector Arena has hosted 90 concerts in 2 years and everyone said it would not work

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