D Scene heaps preamble to meeting

### D Scene March 25, 2009 (page 4)
Town Hall project showdown

The proposed stadium will come under scrutiny from six Dunedin identities and councillors at a last-minute town hall meeting this Sunday. The meeting is organised by Stop The Stadium.

WHAT: Stadium meeting – what you should have been told!
WHERE: Dunedin Town Hall
WHEN: this Sunday, 7pm
MC: Dougal Stevenson
ADMISSION: free

D Scene gets a preview from each of the six speakers.

Michael Stedman
Natural History New Zealand managing director
FOCUSING ON: Where the funding is coming from and how that has been presented to the public.
HE SAYS: “The big issue for me is that this is the biggest expenditure in Dunedin’s history. There are a lot of issues that remain something of a mystery and that can’t be answered because of commercial sensitivity. The funding is a mystery.”

Gerry Eckhoff
Otago Regional Councillor
FOCUSING ON: How the process has been carried out by council.
HE SAYS: “I have been very uneasy about a number of things for a while. I guess I’m concerned about the local government process and how things should have been done.”

Alistair Broad
Dunedin businessman
FOCUSING ON: Guaranteed maximum price construction contract and funding from ratepayers.
HE SAYS: “The thrust of where I’m coming from is that we are heading towards building something we don’t want or isn’t necessary. I’m seriously concerned about whether we have a genuine maximum price contract. How can you have a genuine fixed prince contract when you have variables like building on an area that’s not a solid foundation?”

Sukhi Turner
Former Dunedin mayor
FOCUSING ON: Council engaging with citizens when decision making.
SHE SAYS: “The meeting is about stopping the stadium. lf you want to see what I think come along to the meeting.”

Dave Cull
Dunedin City Councillor
FOCUSING ON: The consequence for ratepayers, how the city has got to this point, the guaranteed maximum price construction contract.
HE SAYS: “The things that I will focus on are the real financial implications for the ratepayers and also the process.”

Robert Hamlin
Otago University senior lecturer
Hamlin failed to respond to D Scene queries by deadline. However, previously, the lecturer – who also teaches a feasibility analysis paper – has predicted the cost of the stadium could blow out to $400 million and if it does, because of high city debt, that Dunedin will face a type of local body armageddon which might involve central Government stepping in.

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### D Scene March 25, 2009 (page 4; abridged)
I wouldn’t go anyway: Farry
By Ryan Keen

Carisbrook Stadium Trust chairman Malcolm Farry won’t be attending a high-level Town Hall meeting being held to voice concerns about the project.
{story continues}

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Pick up today’s copy of D Scene. Other headlines:

D-Day looms for city (page 5) – There are still six Dunedin city councillors who remain undecided on the stadium project.

Trust’s private funding deals not audited (page 5) – CST’s private sector funding arrangements haven’t been audited, as previously claimed by its chairman Malcolm Farry.

No room for Bledisloe (page 5) – Otago’s megabucks stadium can never hold a Bledisloe. [seating capacity issues]

High rate rises, anyone (page 10) – Crs Dave Cull and Chris Staynes on why proceeding with the stadium breaches the trust of the community.

Issues as we see them (page 10) – Affordability, Keeping faith with the community, and Community support.

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3 responses to “D Scene heaps preamble to meeting

  1. Elizabeth

    Malcolm Farry hasn’t dared to bring his stadium roadshow to the Dunedin public, as EVERYONE on both sides of the debate has noticed. This is an utter failing, how convenient for CST to hide behind DCC in the ‘home’ city. Where’s your moral fibre CST.

    In D Scene‘s ‘D-Day looms for city’ (25/3/09 page 5), reproduced at SkyscraperCity blog by UglyBob, we see Hilary Calvert seeming knowledgeable on GMP contracts. Oh dear. As Vilder at Skyscraper says, she’s “wife to Alistair Broad” and went so far as to stand (again) for Act in the government elections. God help us all. Presbyterians included.

  2. Richard

    Thank goodness Socrates did not read rags like this week’s issue of “D-Scene”.

  3. Elizabeth

    Of the weekly D Scene…a momentous leap to the socratic:

    “The eccentricity of Socrates’ life was not less remarkable than the oddity of his appearance and the irony of his conversation.

    “His whole time was spent in public; in the Mode of Life market place, the streets, the gymnasia. He talked to all corners, to the craftsman and the artist as willingly as to the poet or the politician, questioning them about their affairs, about the processes of their several occupations, about their notions of morality, in a word, about familiar matters in which they might be expected to take an interest.

    […experience showed that those who esteemed themselves wise were unable to give an account of their knowledge…]

    “He conceived himself to hold a commission to educate, and was consciously seeking the intellectual and moral improvement of his countrymen.

    “His meat and drink were of the poorest; summer and winter his coat was the same; he was shoeless and shirtless…by the surrender of the luxuries and the comforts of life Socrates secured for himself the independence which was necessary that he might go about his appointed business, and therewith he was content.

    “His message was to all, but it was variously received. Those who heard him perforce and occasionally were apt to regard his teaching either with indifference or with irritation.

    “Amongst those who deliberately sought and sedulously cultivated his acquaintance there were some who attached themselves to him as they might have attached themselves to any ordinary sophist, conceiving that by temporary contact with so acute a reasoner they would best prepare themselves for the logomachies of the law courts, the assembly and the senate. Again, there were others who saw in Socrates at once master, counsellor and friend, and hoped by associating with him “to become good men and true, capable of doing their duty by house and household, by relations and friends, by city and fellow-citizens” (Xenophon).”

    http://www.2020site.org/socrates/eccintricity.html

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    “A spirit of whimsical paradox leads him, in Xenophon’s Banquet, to argue that his own satyr-like visage was superior in beauty to that of the handsomest man present. That this irony was to some extent calculated is more than probable; it disarmed ridicule by anticipating it; it allayed jealousy and propitiated envy; and it possibly procured him admission into circles from which a more solemn teacher would have been excluded. But it had for its basis a real greatness of soul, a hearty and unaffected disregard of public opinion, a perfect disinterestedness, an entire abnegation of self. He made himself a fool that others by his folly might be made wise; he humbled himself to the level of those among whom his work lay that he might raise some few among them to his own level; he was all things to all men, if by any means he might win some. It would seem that this humorous depreciation of his own great qualities, this pretence of being no better than his neighbours, led to grave misapprehension amongst his contemporaries.”

    http://www.2020site.org/socrates/personalcharacteristics.html

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