Daily Archives: March 4, 2009

Light entertainment, poll

### ODT Wed, 4 Mar 2009

Are the Highlanders right to charge double for terrace tickets to the rugby/Shihad concert on Saturday night? (link)

Yes No What’s a Shihad?


Classic reactions to the unscientific:

Comment by Greenkeeper on Wed, 04/03/2009 – 7:52pm.

If the rugby union thinks that students will be able to afford $40 for the rugby and a concert then they are dreaming.
There was a group of about 12 of us who were going to go to the game on Saturday night but due to having to pay $40 for a terrace ticket, we will be watching it at home with beer and pizzas!!
In future why doesn’t the rugby union try and fill the stadium with half price tickets and create an atmosphere that might actually help the team get over the finish line.

Shihad concert
Comment by caz on Wed, 04/03/2009 – 7:14pm.

The choice should not have been “What’s a Shihad”
It should have been “Who are the Highlanders?”


If for games and associated events at the new stadium, will scrooge habits die hard.

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Same time, another place

The city of Regina (Canada) is having its own stadium debate.
Here’s some cold comfort.

Regina was established in 1882 when the transcontinental railroad was constructed. On 19 June 1903, with a population of more than 3,000, Regina was incorporated as a city. Now Regina has about 200,000 inhabitants. It is the capital city of the province of Saskatchewan and is located about 250 km south of the city of Saskatoon. Regina’s most popular daily newspaper is The Leader Post. The city is home to the University of Regina. Regina was the headquarters of the North West Mounted Police for 28 years.

### The Regina Leader-Post February 25, 2009

Exclusive Series: State of the Stadium
Regina needs partners for new stadium: Fiacco

By Ian Hamilton

REGINA — Paying for a new or renovated stadium in Regina may end up being a political football.

The City of Regina is contemplating upgrades to Mosaic Stadium — home of the CFL’s Saskatchewan Roughriders, among others — that could cost up to $120 million. But instead of spending huge money and ending up with a renovated stadium, the city also is contemplating a new facility with a price tag that could reach $350 million.

No matter which project is chosen, the city is looking for a teammate or two to help pay the bills.

“We own the building, it’s our facility, so we have to be a major player,” says Mayor Pat Fiacco. “But we can’t do it alone. I’m not going to do it on the backs of property taxpayers alone.

“There are programs out there, provincially and federally, that allow us to access those funds so that everyone participates. We’ll certainly be looking at what those opportunities look like.”

The idea of government involvement has generated some opposition.

David Seymour, the director of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy’s Saskatchewan office and a senior policy analyst at the think-tank, believes governments shouldn’t fund anything related to entertainment. That allows taxpayers “to make their own decisions and transfer their own revenue to funding something like a stadium.”

Seymour admits there are projects that call for government involvement, but this isn’t one of them.

“It may be true that the only way that Regina will end up with a stadium on that scale is through having a government injection or subsidy, but that very fact is telling you that people by their voluntary choices just don’t value it highly enough,” Seymour says.

“What they should do is look at what is the best stadium they can make a business case for and say, ‘Look, this is what the people apparently want. This is what they’re prepared to pay for,’ rather than ask others to pay on their behalf.”

The Saskatchewan director of the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation also has reservations about the idea.

Lee Harding would like to see the city hold a referendum featuring fully costed options and a set limit on taxpayer contributions. The option the public picks then would be constructed.

While some taxpayers will support a costly project like a domed stadium, Harding would like to see other financial backers get involved.

Fiacco is one of the driving forces behind a new stadium, primarily because of what it can offer Regina.

“We want a thriving community,” he says. “It’s about choice . . . It’s for the public good and we (on city council) have an obligation as an elected group of officials to do what’s right for the public good.”

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CST press release

Government Support For Forsyth Barr Stadium A Major Milestone

The [Carisbrook] Stadium Trust has welcomed the Government’s letter confirming that it will underwrite development of the Forsyth Barr Stadium at University Plaza as a major milestone. Stadium Trust Chairman Malcolm Farry says: “We are extremely grateful to the Government for its support and its recognition of the stadium’s important role in regional economic development.

“We acknowledge the competing demands on Government funding and appreciate its decision to support the development of this iconic community infrastructure for the Otago region at this time.

“Following the Government’s decision, Otago Regional Council voted today to confirm its funding commitment of $37.5 million. We thank the Council for their continued support and the shared vision to develop community infrastructure of lasting benefit to the Otago region.

“The Government support, combined with the Dunedin City Council, Otago Regional Council, Community Trust of Otago and University of Otago support and ongoing private sector fundraising, will achieve the remaining budget for the stadium development. We now look ahead with renewed confidence to construction starting this year, and to the creation of new jobs that will bring.

“The Stadium Trust is continuing to sell memberships, hospitality products and sponsorships and will do so throughout the stadium construction period with the goal of achieving or exceeding the private sector funding target.

“Contrary to some published reports, the Trust remains on track to achieve its private sector funding target of $45.5 million,” he said.

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Latest Funding Fight

blah blah blah,

more money raised, more from Bev and of course more rubbish in the ODT comments section.

However my eye’s were a little amazed to see such an Intelligent and Eloquent person such as Cr Michael Deaker state

” he would ignore the idea the project had been given “some kind of permission” from the Crown.

Any thought of “putting a plastic roof” on another rugby field was “absolutely, definitely not a prudent financial decision”, no matter who gave permission”

Come on Michael, this might be an expression of your exasperation with this project, but you of all people know that this is not a ‘plastic roof’ and just another ‘rugby field’.

Anything that Cr Gerry Eckhoff has to say needs to be tempered with the fact that his baggage predetermines any sanity coming from his mouth – conservative libertarian rural gentry.

And of course Bev Butler…

Come on Michael, you are an exceedingly well versed and researched person, please don’t play these sound bite games with the public, it’s not helping anyone.

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Govt move sways vote on stadium

Use of the word underwriting is interesting.

### ODT Wed, 4 Mar 2009

By Rebecca Fox and Mark Price

The Otago Stadium project got a $52.5 million shot in the arm yesterday after an 11th-hour decision by the Government.

• How they voted

In favour: Stephen Cairns, Crs Doug Brown, Duncan Butcher, Sam Neill, Gretchen Robertson, Stephen Woodhead.
Against: Crs Michael Deaker, Gerry Eckhoff, Bryan Scott, David Shepherd.
Absent: Cr Louise Croot.

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